[Mrs. Don-o]

"I consider myself saved by grace; as you do."

Good. Something we have in common.

"I also consider myself kept by the same grace. I do NOT beat myself up over any 'rules' my chosen denomination has set before me that I've failed to follow to the letter. "

I'm not beating myself up. I just admit when I've fallen short, which is frequently. I'm not a very good faster; and Christ said there are demons that can't be expelled except by prayer and fasting.

Could be why there's still a Planned Parenthood office in my very neighborhood, and Obama's still in the White House.

And I kid you not.

[metmom]

Could be why there's still a Planned Parenthood office in my very neighborhood, and Obama's still in the White House. And I kid you not.

And I could not agree more.

Fasting is a lost practice.

[Elsie]

I just admit when I've fallen short

Of HUMAN LAW?

[Elsie]

Could be why there's still a Planned Parenthood office in my very neighborhood, and Obama's still in the White House.

But Obama's not killing anyone.

[HiTech RedNeck]

Sometimes more intense efforts have to be made to be spiritually effective in a given situation. Fasting can be one of the means. It doesn’t mean that’s the right thing in every single situation. Also, it’s perhaps an ill noted spiritual truth that demons are driven away with light. By exalting God in their faces. It does not work to try to curse a demon to hell. It’s already damned. It’s superfluous at best, and gives the demon a foothold over you at the worst.