Posted on 08/27/2013 11:53:37 AM PDT by NYer
Calgary = Calvary
I hate auto-correct
Well, no one else kneels before the image and asks the image to do something for them. Do I think they were worshiping images? NO You seem to have made an assumption that the man in the graveyard was praying rather than just contemplating the life of the deceased and missing that person. You said those kids sitting on the floor listening to a speaker were kneeling. You comparisons were not what you had hoped Im thinking. And now your understanding of what I meant is in total error as well.
Let me compare it to something. Mormons also claim they believe in Jesus. Do you believe they mean the same thing as you?
>> Weren't the Apostles the founding preachers/teachers/church-planters, so to speak, of the Christian Church?<<
Not like the Catholics would have us think.
Yes.
>>Do you or your spouse wear wedding rings?<<
No.
>>Can you show me where they are found in the Bible?<<
They are not as the wearing of wedding rings has nothing to do with worshiping God.
Surely you dont expect anyone to think wearing wedding rings is comparable to the use of paganism in the Catholic Church worship of God do you?
There is no replacement for Christ on earth. Scripture does teach that the anti Christ will try.
>> These scriptural descriptions of divine worship should not seem foreign to Protestants.<<
What makes you think I am a Protestant? Are you so narrow minded as to think that anyone not a Catholic is a Protestant?
>> In the Mass, Christ, acting through the person of the priest,<<
Scriptural proof of that concept please.
>> makes present the sacrifice of Calgary, offering Himself to the Father<<
Christ did that once for all time and not to be repeated. Catholics evidently believe when Christ said it is finished He wasnt serious.
No Catholic kneels before an image and asks the image to do something for them.
I applaud you on your consistency on avoiding a wedding ring as pagan.
Do you think any professed Christian who used such a non-Biblical thing in a church wedding is guilty of paganism?
LOL Nice try. Neither did the pagans. They all had gods who the image represented. Nice try tho.
Are they using it to worship God or simply as a sign of commitment to each other and a sign to others of that commitment? Nice attempt at obfuscation tho.
I don't know anything about any mysteries, but does your Church not refer to Mary as "Mother of God" or Queen of Heaven"?
There’s a difference between Jesus sitting on His throne and the priest sitting on something that resembles a throne.
REALITY CHECK?
HE Did Not use ROCKS to become man. He Choose to have a Mother. He had to have a Mother. If he is sinless by Obeying the Ten Commandments those requirements have to be met by him having a human mother. He has to obey the honor to his Mother and Father in the Ten Commandments. Otherwise he is not our Savior. He would not have obeyed the Ten Commandments if he came from rocks. Also it was always his Mothers free Choice otherwise God is a Tryant and not God. If it was forced it is wrong.
I see a bunch of kids sitting cross legged.....
But here's a veteran praying on Memorial Day. Do you think he's committing idolatry? Of course not. No reasonable person thinks that. He's praying to God --- I feel fairly confident of that.
Of course that's what anyone would conclude.
But he is not kneeling and bowing his head before a statue.
The second commandment says not to BOW DOWN before the images. Bowing is bowing.
Anyone can argue till the cows come home that what it is is not worship, but God circumvents that by making it clear that it's BOWING we are not to do.
And bowing is bowing.
You cant be serious. Thats what you got out of Gods statement about the rocks would cry out? Seriously? Take your focus off of man and put it on God.
The discussion is about bowing down before the image. God FORBIDS bowing down or serving them.
You do realize what happened to that bronze serpent eventually, don't you?
2 Kings 18:1-4 In the third year of Hoshea son of Elah, king of Israel, Hezekiah the son of Ahaz, king of Judah, began to reign. He was twenty-five years old when he began to reign, and he reigned twenty-nine years in Jerusalem. His mother's name was Abi the daughter of Zechariah. And he did what was right in the eyes of the Lord, according to all that David his father had done. He removed the high places and broke the pillars and cut down the Asherah. And he broke in pieces the bronze serpent that Moses had made, for until those days the people of Israel had made offerings to it (it was called Nehushtan).
Of course Christ had to be virgin born to fulfill prophecy, but that is it. There's no requirement for Mary to remain a virgin after that. The angel did tell Joseph to take Mary as his WIFE. And he did not *know* her until AFTER she gave birth to Jesus.
The WHORE, or her DAUGHTERS, what’s the difference?
They’re both condemned.
No I don’t see your point at all, or what all your posting has been about or how you keep claiming inaccurate numbers, or what your confusion about them is.
My post 52 was a simple enough post, responding to a strange claim, but you went on some odd and senseless journey about it for some reason.
Your saying in your original argument that God did not need Mary His Mother but he could have been made from Rocks instead of being born of a woman? Correct me if I am wrong. Your original statement is what?
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