[St_Thomas_Aquinas]

You'll have to try something else...

OK

"the twenty-four elders [the leaders of the people of God in heaven] fell down before the Lamb, each holding a harp, and with golden bowls full of incense, which are the prayers of the saints" (Rev. 5:8).

So the saints in heaven offer our prayers to God, as do the angels. (Rev. 8:3–4)

[metmom]

So the saints in heaven offer our prayers to God, as do the angels. (Rev. 8:3–4)

Well, THEY are saints after all.

However, even that verse is not a proof text to justify praying TO them.

It doesn't state which saints prayers they are and how they came to them.

That's convoluted, backdoor reasoning. Nowhere in Scripture are we commanded to pray to ANYONE but the Father.

On the contrary, when Jesus was asked by His disciples to teach them to pray, He taught them to pray to the Father with plenty of assurance that God the Father Himself WOULD answer us and give us all good things.

tell me. Do Catholics not believe that? Why on earth would a Catholic pray to a saint for anything when we have the promise of God the Father hearing and answering our prayers from the lips of Jesus Himself?

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[Elsie]

"the twenty-four elders

So the saints in heaven...

You just plainly CANNOT read; can you!