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Dean of the Washington National Cathedral Calls Self "Non-Theistic Christian." Whaaaat?
Creative Minority Report ^ | August 8, 2013 | Matthew Archbold

Posted on 08/08/2013 3:09:38 PM PDT by NYer

The Episcopal Priest, Rev. Gary R. Hall, is the Dean of the Washington National Cathedral. I expected him to be liberal as he has been outspoken concerning his support of gay marriage and gun control. I mean, hey, he's an Episcopalian, whaddya' expect? But I was truly surprised by something in Sally Quinn's profile of Rev. Hall at On Faith.

Check it out:

I don’t want to be loosey-goosey about it,” he says, “but I describe myself as a non-theistic Christian.”

And he goes on to expand on the concept.

“Jesus doesn’t use the word God very much,” he says. “He talks about his Father.”

Hall explains: “Where I am now, how do I understand Jesus as a son of God that’s not magical? I’m trying to figure out Jesus as a son of God and a fully human being, if he has both fully human and a fully divine set of chromosomes. . . . He’s not some kind of superman coming down. God is present in all human beings. Jesus was an extraordinary human being. Jesus didn’t try to convert. He just had people at his table.”
Now, I'm not the brightest guy in the world but this Episcopalian priest just said he didn't really truck with Jesus' divinity, right? Right?

He said the Episcopal Church has to change with the time but he bemoaned, “We’re in a period where people under 50 don’t see the church as a credible place to explore their questions about God.” Hmmm. Wonder why.

HT Mark Tooley wrote an excellent piece on this interview at Juicy Ecumenism.



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To: NYer

I guess he doesn’t know the word.

THEISM

Belief in a personal and provident God. It may, however, take on different forms, notably monotheism (one God), polytheism (several gods), or henotheism (one chief god among several). theism is commonly distinguished fromatheism, which denies the existence of a personal, transcendent deity. (Etym. Greek theos, god.)


21 posted on 08/08/2013 3:57:01 PM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: NYer

Non-theistic Christian

Oxymoron if I ever heard one.

Non theistic — don’t believe in God

Christian — believe in Christ, true God and true man.


22 posted on 08/08/2013 3:58:31 PM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: Cicero
This guy thinks that God has chromosomes?

Yeah, I caught that one too. Divine chromosomes, apparently.

23 posted on 08/08/2013 4:02:16 PM PDT by Billthedrill
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Who would sit in these pews or give a red cent to keep this opulent church running with clowns like the “Very Reverend” Gary at the helm? Has it got to the point where there’s no need to even put on the sheep’s clothing to fool the flock?


24 posted on 08/08/2013 4:04:06 PM PDT by Hayride
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To: Hayride

I’ve been there.
It’s a VERY upscale crowd, largely older folks, influential DC types.

Affiliated with St. Albans and Natl Cathedral Schools where our future masters are trained.


25 posted on 08/08/2013 4:07:16 PM PDT by nascarnation (Baraq's economic policy: trickle up poverty)
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What kind of theology school did this joker go to?


26 posted on 08/08/2013 4:08:08 PM PDT by D-fendr (Deus non alligatur sacramentis sed nos alligamur.)
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To: Hayride

**Who would sit in these pews **

The clintons did.


27 posted on 08/08/2013 4:08:39 PM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: NYer

A living example of Romans 1:18-32

18 But God shows his anger from heaven against all sinful, wicked people who suppress the truth by their wickedness.[i] 19 They know the truth about God because he has made it obvious to them. 20 For ever since the world was created, people have seen the earth and sky. Through everything God made, they can clearly see his invisible qualities—his eternal power and divine nature. So they have no excuse for not knowing God.

21 Yes, they knew God, but they wouldn’t worship him as God or even give him thanks. And they began to think up foolish ideas of what God was like. As a result, their minds became dark and confused. 22 Claiming to be wise, they instead became utter fools. 23 And instead of worshiping the glorious, ever-living God, they worshiped idols made to look like mere people and birds and animals and reptiles.

24 So God abandoned them to do whatever shameful things their hearts desired. As a result, they did vile and degrading things with each other’s bodies. 25 They traded the truth about God for a lie. So they worshiped and served the things God created instead of the Creator himself, who is worthy of eternal praise! Amen. 26 That is why God abandoned them to their shameful desires. Even the women turned against the natural way to have sex and instead indulged in sex with each other. 27 And the men, instead of having normal sexual relations with women, burned with lust for each other. Men did shameful things with other men, and as a result of this sin, they suffered within themselves the penalty they deserved.

28 Since they thought it foolish to acknowledge God, he abandoned them to their foolish thinking and let them do things that should never be done. 29 Their lives became full of every kind of wickedness, sin, greed, hate, envy, murder, quarreling, deception, malicious behavior, and gossip. 30 They are backstabbers, haters of God, insolent, proud, and boastful. They invent new ways of sinning, and they disobey their parents. 31 They refuse to understand, break their promises, are heartless, and have no mercy. 32 They know God’s justice requires that those who do these things deserve to die, yet they do them anyway. Worse yet, they encourage others to do them, too.


28 posted on 08/08/2013 4:25:05 PM PDT by stars & stripes forever
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To: NYer

This man is hellbound.


29 posted on 08/08/2013 4:32:38 PM PDT by Viennacon
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To: NYer

Translation: “I don’t really believe in anything, but I’ve got a cush job and I’m not about to give it up by actually preaching the Gospel.”


30 posted on 08/08/2013 4:41:39 PM PDT by IronJack (=)
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To: NYer

His father was Huntz Hall, of the Dead End Kids/East Side Kids.


31 posted on 08/08/2013 6:32:51 PM PDT by Arthur McGowan (If you're FOR sticking scissors in a female's neck and sucking out her brains, you are PRO-WOMAN!)
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To: NYer

And folks wonder why that building was damaged in an earthquake and then the crane repairing it fell on the rectory.


32 posted on 08/08/2013 7:19:45 PM PDT by wonkowasright (Wonko from outside the asylum)
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To: NYer; zot

Translation: I only pretend to be a Christian so I can collect a pay check from the folks I’m leading astray from the Truth, the Light, and the Way of Christ.


33 posted on 08/08/2013 7:37:50 PM PDT by GreyFriar (Spearhead - 3rd Armored Division 75-78 & 83-87)
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To: NYer

I too recall the heretical John Spong saying that he need not believe in God in order to be an Episcopal priest. I guess he was right.

An acquaintance of mine became a Christian after almost 40 years of being an Episcopal priest. He estimates the episcopal priesthood to be 3-5% Christians.


34 posted on 08/08/2013 7:39:16 PM PDT by crusher (Political Correctness: Stalinism Without the Charm)
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To: GreyFriar

Obviously, an Episcopal priest doesn’t need to believe in God.


35 posted on 08/08/2013 8:26:02 PM PDT by zot
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To: NYer

I’d rather go to the mall on Sunday and shop.


36 posted on 08/08/2013 9:19:24 PM PDT by Raycpa
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To: NYer

He’s not a theist or a Christian. I would pray that God sees fit to regenerate this man or the last he ever hears will probably be, “I never knew ye”.


37 posted on 08/09/2013 5:11:05 AM PDT by circlecity
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