Posted on 08/08/2013 3:09:38 PM PDT by NYer
The Episcopal Priest, Rev. Gary R. Hall, is the Dean of the Washington National Cathedral. I expected him to be liberal as he has been outspoken concerning his support of gay marriage and gun control. I mean, hey, he's an Episcopalian, whaddya' expect? But I was truly surprised by something in Sally Quinn's profile of Rev. Hall at On Faith.
Check it out:
I don’t want to be loosey-goosey about it,” he says, “but I describe myself as a non-theistic Christian.”Now, I'm not the brightest guy in the world but this Episcopalian priest just said he didn't really truck with Jesus' divinity, right? Right?
And he goes on to expand on the concept.
“Jesus doesn’t use the word God very much,” he says. “He talks about his Father.”
Hall explains: “Where I am now, how do I understand Jesus as a son of God that’s not magical? I’m trying to figure out Jesus as a son of God and a fully human being, if he has both fully human and a fully divine set of chromosomes. . . . He’s not some kind of superman coming down. God is present in all human beings. Jesus was an extraordinary human being. Jesus didn’t try to convert. He just had people at his table.”
This is the heresy of Monophysitism (5th Century)
Monophysitism originated as a reaction to Nestorianism. The Monophysites (led by a man named Eutyches) were horrified by Nestorius’s implication that Christ was two people with two different natures (human and divine). They went to the other extreme, claiming that Christ was one person with only one nature (a fusion of human and divine elements). They are thus known as Monophysites because of their claim that Christ had only one nature (Greek: mono = one; physis = nature).
Orthodox Catholic theologians recognized that Monophysitism was as bad as Nestorianism because it denied Christ’s full humanity and full divinity. If Christ did not have a fully human nature, then he would not be fully human, and if he did not have a fully divine nature then he was not fully divine.
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A prime example of why I left the morally/theologically vacuous ECUSA.
IOW- Not a Christian
To think about God and reality the way the Church fathers did, you have to be able to put the infinite and the finite together.
This is why we believe that there are two natures but one person. It is a sacramental structure.
Pro Jesus; Anti-Christ.
His statements are embarrassingly childish and uneducated.
Atheists, ahem, non-theists used to be made of more impressive stuff.
Well, when you consider that many self-describe “christians” in these heretical sects (Episcopal, ELCA, United Methodists, etc.) often deny the historicity of the actual man Jesus, deny His virgin birth, deny His deity and deny His sinlessness, what else can they not claim?
This is like:
“The evidence will show I am the shooter.”
And it's been that way for quite a long time, hasn't it?
This guy thinks that God has chromosomes?
William Butler Yeats (1865-1939)
THE SECOND COMING
Turning and turning in the widening gyre
The falcon cannot hear the falconer;
Things fall apart; the centre cannot hold;
Mere anarchy is loosed upon the world,
The blood-dimmed tide is loosed, and everywhere
The ceremony of innocence is drowned;
The best lack all conviction, while the worst
Are full of passionate intensity.
Surely some revelation is at hand;
Surely the Second Coming is at hand.
The Second Coming! Hardly are those words out
When a vast image out of Spiritus Mundi
Troubles my sight: a waste of desert sand;
A shape with lion body and the head of a man,
A gaze blank and pitiless as the sun,
Is moving its slow thighs, while all about it
Wind shadows of the indignant desert birds.
The darkness drops again but now I know
That twenty centuries of stony sleep
Were vexed to nightmare by a rocking cradle,
And what rough beast, its hour come round at last,
Slouches towards Bethlehem to be born?
Re: ECUSA
First I read the howlers from Bishop Spong when I lived in New Jersey. Then we know about Bishop Vickie Gene Robinson. Now this, outright denying the divinity of Christ, and just about denying the existence of God. The ECUSA is spiritually DEAD. Ichabod!
The incoherence is obvious, and suggests his only devotion is to medical marijuana. Thanks NYer.
A church founded by the decadent heretic Henry VIII will wither and collapse. The majority of the Episcopal clergy are agnostic and hypocritical.
The ruling party denied God three times on camera and on mic... and then was elected to the presidency.
The “dean” of the National Cathedral doesn’t believe in God.
Our army is making up rules to allow leave for homosexual soldiers who marry.
We’re arming jihadists who are slaughtering Christians.
If 911 was a wakeup call, the next call is going to be a doozy.
2 Timothy 3
King James Version (KJV)
3 This know also, that in the last days perilous times shall come.
2 For men shall be lovers of their own selves, covetous, boasters, proud, blasphemers, disobedient to parents, unthankful, unholy,
3 Without natural affection, trucebreakers, false accusers, incontinent, fierce, despisers of those that are good,
4 Traitors, heady, highminded, lovers of pleasures more than lovers of God;
5 Having a form of godliness, but denying the power thereof: from such turn away.
6 For of this sort are they which creep into houses, and lead captive silly women laden with sins, led away with divers lusts,
7 Ever learning, and never able to come to the knowledge of the truth.
8 Now as Jannes and Jambres withstood Moses, so do these also resist the truth: men of corrupt minds, reprobate concerning the faith.
9 But they shall proceed no further: for their folly shall be manifest unto all men, as their’s also was.
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