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To: albionin
Personally, I can’t think of one thing that I have faith about, faith being defined as belief without evidence or in the face of evidence to the contrary.

Then neither do I since I believe that faith in God has mountains of evidence. Belief that an incredibly stable and efficient ecological system like Earth could come from a million different random chances is what is preposterous.

Plus, there are a few things that defy logic but are central to our existence. For example, if you freeze oxygen, it condenses. If you freeze hydrogen, it condenses. But if you freeze water, which is nothing but hydrogen and oxygen, it expands. No scientist can make sense of that yet those who believe God orders the universe can accept it as part of His plan.

78 posted on 07/29/2013 7:44:04 PM PDT by OrangeHoof (Howdy to all you government agents spying on me.)
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To: OrangeHoof
But if you freeze water, which is nothing but hydrogen and oxygen, it expands. No scientist can make sense of that

Gosh, you're right. The reason that water expands when it freezes must be an utter mystery to science.

http://www.iapws.org/faq1/freeze.htm

Then again... :-)

81 posted on 07/29/2013 10:33:51 PM PDT by Kip Russell (Be wary of strong drink. It can make you shoot at tax collectors -- and miss. ---Robert A. Heinlein)
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To: OrangeHoof

The Earth’s ecological system isn’t stable. It’s changing all the time, many times very, very violently. Just ask the dinosaurs. There are constant changes in the climate, some severe. There are super volcanoes that have erupted in the past and will again. It is not random chance though. The laws of nature are not random. Processes are certain and universal. It is not chance.

There is nothing illogical about Hydrogen and oxygen contracting when they freeze nor water expanding when it freezes. Hydrogen and Oxygen are gasses and water is a liquid. It is not chance or a plan, just entities acting according to their nature.


87 posted on 07/30/2013 9:15:08 AM PDT by albionin
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