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From Calvinist Prosecutor to Catholic Apologist
Catholic World Report ^ | July 26, 2013 | David Paul Deavel

Posted on 07/26/2013 2:04:17 PM PDT by NYer

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Talk to Eliza
> Hello, I am Eliza.
* it's me again
> Don't you ever say Hello?
* “You are using the same relativistic argument atheists use.”         
> Come, come, elucidate your thoughts.
 
 
 
 
 

541 posted on 10/19/2013 3:44:30 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Elsie

Not at all. What I said was perfectly logical in this discussion.


542 posted on 10/19/2013 8:53:59 AM PDT by vladimir998
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To: vladimir998

Mary is dead.


543 posted on 10/19/2013 12:43:18 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Elsie

No one in Christ is dead.


544 posted on 10/19/2013 2:53:05 PM PDT by vladimir998
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To: vladimir998

Mary is not in Heaven; helping Jesus out.


545 posted on 10/19/2013 5:54:58 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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“Mary is not in Heaven; helping Jesus out.”

Elsie, are you claiming Mary is in Hell?


546 posted on 10/19/2013 6:13:02 PM PDT by vladimir998
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Elsie, are you claiming Mary is in Hell?

Nope.

She is DEAD, awaiting the last trump, just like EVERY OTHER believer who has 'died in Christ'.

There are no indications, found in Scripture, that she has been treated any differently than any other Christian of the past.

547 posted on 10/20/2013 3:43:51 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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“Mary is not in Heaven;”

Then exactly where is Mary, Elsie?


548 posted on 10/20/2013 7:30:35 AM PDT by vladimir998
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Then exactly where is Mary, Elsie?

Why do want to know?

To see if MY 'evidence' as to her location is the same as the RCC's?

549 posted on 10/20/2013 11:53:26 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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No, I just assume I ask you the obvious.

Where is Mary right now, Elsie?


550 posted on 10/20/2013 11:56:19 AM PDT by vladimir998
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Where is Mary right now, Elsie?

Dead, in her grave.

Now; you want proof; right?

Yet, you seem to require NO proof from your chosen religious organization as to her whereabouts.

What a piece of work the RCC has created.

I'll leave you to wors uh, VENERATE your Queen of Heaven as you desire.

551 posted on 10/21/2013 4:15:22 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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“Dead, in her grave.”

So, Mary’s soul is dead and in the ground somewhere?

“Now; you want proof; right?”

No, not really. First, you won’t have any proof of that at all since it isn’t true, and, second, I just asked because I knew - and you have shown it to be the case - that whatever you believed would be unorthodox, ahistorical, anti-scriptural, and just plain crazy.

“Yet, you seem to require NO proof from your chosen religious organization as to her whereabouts.”

Again, how much proof did you require to believe the canon of scripture for the New Testament? Did you ever question it at all? What convinced you, what did you require, to believe Matthew wrote a gospel when the scriptures never mention it even once?

“What a piece of work the RCC has created.”

At least the Catholic Church hasn’t created a piece of work that claims souls die and are buried in the ground - which is what you just did.

“I’ll leave you to wors uh, VENERATE your Queen of Heaven as you desire.”

You’ll run now. You can’t answer my questions - without making your heresy manifest - so you might as well.


552 posted on 10/21/2013 5:09:15 AM PDT by vladimir998
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You’ll run now.

Nope; walking and kicking dust from my feet.

Continue to believe your church, and do so many unnecessary things.


I'm sure we'll meet in Heaven.

You DO agree with me HERE, don't you?

553 posted on 10/21/2013 9:27:55 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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“Nope; walking and kicking dust from my feet.”

Nope. Sprinting. And the dust is all yours.

“Continue to believe your church, and do so many unnecessary things.”

Continue to believe in your sect, and so false doctrines.

“I’m sure we’ll meet in Heaven.”

I’m not so sure you’ll be there, but thankfully for both of us, I don’t make that decision.

“You DO agree with me HERE, don’t you?”

No, not really.


554 posted on 10/21/2013 10:49:15 AM PDT by vladimir998
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I’m not so sure you’ll be there, but thankfully for both of us, I don’t make that decision.

I know; your chosen religion already has.


However; there is One whose decision will trump ALL of ours...

555 posted on 10/22/2013 9:50:14 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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“I know; your chosen religion already has.”

Nope. So far you’re the only one who is making any decisions in that regard.

“However; there is One whose decision will trump ALL of ours...”

True enough. It’s a shame you think His mother is dead when she actually is alive in Him.


556 posted on 10/22/2013 5:44:21 PM PDT by vladimir998
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