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From Calvinist Prosecutor to Catholic Apologist
Catholic World Report ^ | July 26, 2013 | David Paul Deavel

Posted on 07/26/2013 2:04:17 PM PDT by NYer

Sunday, June 21, marked the 90th anniversary of the Scopes Monkey Trial decision. The questions surrounding evolution—meaning, in particular, the origins of humans—still raise large and important questions for how we understand human nature and the doctrine of original sin. But Jason Stellman thinks that the obsession with our physical origins, though understandable, is perhaps theologically off-kilter. Where we've come from biologically is not as important as where we're heading. It's not the beginning of the journey, man—it's the destination. Stellman's The Destiny of the Species (Wipf and Stock, 2013) is a brief, rollicking, and readable apologetic, notable not just for turning the question of origins on its head, but also for pioneering a slightly different route from the path taken by many Catholic converts in their first books.

From Prosecutor to Papist Stellman's own personal story is compelling. Born and raised in Orange County, California, Stellman came to serious faith in the context of the Evangelicalism of the California preacher Chuck Smith's Calvary Chapel ministries. He served as a Protestant missionary in both Hungary and Uganda before turning to a more theologically rigorous form of Protestantism: Calvinism. Stellman attended Westminster Seminary in Escondido, California and began ministering in the Presbyterian Church in America, the largest conservative Presbyterian denomination in the U.S., planting Exile Presbyterian Church in Woodinville, WA in 2004. Stellman's name came into the limelight when he was chosen to serve as the chief prosecutor in the 2011 heresy trial of fellow Presbyterian minister Peter Leithart, a Calvinist writer and scholar known to readers of journals including First Things and Touchstone. Leithart's views were accused of being in line with a school of Presbyterian thought known as the “Federal Vision,” and he was tried for, among other charges, allegedly failing to distinguish justification and sanctification, divine law and divine grace, and teaching that baptism confers grace and divine adoption. In short, Leithart was on trial for being too Catholic.

Although Stellman's work as prosecutor was acknowledged as solid at the time, Leithart was acquitted by the Northwest Presbytery. In the time after this trial, however, Stellman himself began to question certain historic Protestant beliefs like sola scriptura and sola fide. Through a number of contacts, including the group of formerly Calvinist Catholic apologists centered around the “Called to Communion” (calledtocommunion.com) website, which was founded to foster dialogue with and provide apologetics precisely for Calvinists who suspected the Catholic Church of being right or at least having something to say, Stellman began the journey that ended with his own entrance into the Church on September 23, 2012. Over the last year Stellman has been doing catechesis in a Seattle-area parish, and he now works at Logos Bible Software, developing resource material that will provide an easy way to look at the Scriptures in the light of Patristic and Medieval sources as well as the teachings of the Magisterium.

Apologetics for Everyone Much of Catholic apologetics in English-speaking countries, and increasingly in Latin America, has focused on the differences between Catholics and Protestants. This is not surprising given that large swaths of Evangelical Protestants were baptized as Catholics and left the Church due to the catechetical and spiritual failures of post-conciliar American Catholicism. Sherry Wedell of the Catherine of Siena Institute has written extensively of this phenomenon, which continues to this day—many Catholics who hunger for solid biblical teaching and help in living a life of Christian discipleship seek out elsewhere what they should find in Catholic faith. They find it in the Protestant world where large parts of the Catholic faith have been conserved, especially devotion to Scripture, a serious search for divine intimacy, and the main outlines of Christian morality. Thus Catholic apologetics has been naturally geared toward showing lapsed Catholics and the Protestants they have joined that Catholic faith actually fulfills what they are looking for in a more coherent and comprehensive way. This is an important task—and the importance of it has born great fruit over the last thirty years, not only bringing many serious Protestant pastors, academics, and laity into full communion, but changing the dynamic of Catholic-Protestant relations. During the last two papal conclaves, I have been asked a number of times by Evangelical Protestants about the candidates and what they have to offer. In 2005 one Evangelical Presbyterian friend asked me, “Are we going to get a really good Pope?” I was tempted to answer after the fashion of Tonto when the Lone Ranger asked what chance there was of the duo escaping a wrathful Indian tribe: “Who is this 'we,' white man?” But I didn't, because such a recognition shows how much anti-Catholicism has been tamed in the age of John Paul II, Catholic Answers, Evangelicals and Catholics Together, and all the other efforts of apologetics and dialogue.

Stellman certainly has done his part in explaining his own move, writing an essay titled “I Fought the Church, and the Church Won” and giving an in-depth interview on “Called to Communion” as well as engaging in various interesting questions about the real differences between Catholics and Calvinists on his personal blog, “Creed Code Cult”. But refreshingly, Stellman's Destiny of the Species is actually not geared toward Protestants interested in or annoyed by Mary, the Pope, Purgatory, and Indulgences. It is an apologetic for Christianity as a whole after the fashion of Chesterton's Orthodoxy or Lewis's Mere Christianity, geared toward those who might be “spiritual but not religious,” “nones,” lapsed Catholics who have left Christian faith behind altogether or are already practicing some other sort of faith, and Christians of all sorts, whether Catholic or not. What he has produced is an old-fashioned apologetic for everyone.

Back to the Future Stellman's book, written around the time of the 150th anniversary of Darwin's Origin of the Species, arrived not only in time for the 90th anniversary of the Scopes Monkey Trial, but also Pope Francis's first encyclical, Lumen Fidei, with which it bears some striking similarities. Destiny of the Species begins with the premise that while our biological origins are of interest to us, Darwin ultimately “doesn't scratch where we truly itch.” We certainly eat, drink, defecate, breathe, and move in ways that remind us we are animals. But unlike other animals, whose existence is instinctual, man “is not pushed but pulled, not driven but drawn.” Your dog may appreciate a good nap, a beef, and a burgundy, but we have desires for glory, love, and life that has no end. We are, says Stellman, “hard-wired for heaven.” All of the frantic search for someplace else and something new that Tocqueville found in so pure a form in America (and that more recent writers like David Brooks and Wendell Berry have wryly observed or excoriated) is the sign not simply of biological urge, but spiritual need. Stellman uses Chesterton's fine phrase to describe it: divine discontent. We all hunger for a future that is more than we can experience now.

Like Lumen Fidei, Stellman is proposing that human discontent and restlessness should be answered not by quelling them, but by seeking answers to them. Francis answers Nietzsche's dictum that “if you want peace of soul and happiness, then believe, but if you want to be a follower of truth, then seek,” noting that “autonomous reason is not enough to illumine the future”. Stellman observes that for the vast bulk of people, the way to apparent peace and happiness is not belief, but “worldliness”—simply following our biological needs and various emotional passions for things, fame, revenge, and pharmacologically-induced good feelings. The way of belief, according to Stellman, is actually the path to truth and the only way to real peace and happiness. The rest of his book is dedicated to illuminating the truth that, as Pope Francis puts it, “the light of faith is unique, since it is capable of illuminating every aspect of human existence.” It is “a light coming from the future and opening before us vast horizons which guide us beyond our isolated selves towards the breadth of communion.”

The seeker with a pure heart will not choose between belief and truth, but between competing beliefs. Again, like Pope Francis, Stellman emphasizes that our choice is really between true belief and idolatry. Stellman's middle chapters survey the various false gods that humans encounter, offering treatments of the five vanities surveyed in the book of Ecclesiastes, the temptations of a technologically advanced and affluent society, and how the universal acknowledgment of sin's reality usually issues in our identification of it in someone else's life. We all love to confess others' sins while staying silent about our own. Stellman's treatment is generally good in this section, though it must be said that his treatment of the dangers of life in a consumer society tend toward a sort of stereotyped vision of business and markets that might have been better left out or at least balanced by a recognition of the dangers of modern do-gooderism present in non-profit and government work, too. Stellman, whose views are probably left-of-center, occasionally seems as if he's making a brief against politically conservative Christians and not a brief for Christianity. Jibes at those who watch FOX News or take different views on political issues detract from what is solid and permanent in his exposition. This leads to a second difficulty in the book. Stellman uses a variety of pop-culture references to make his points. Many of them, such as his use of The Matrix to illuminate the choice we have to make between simply distracting ourselves and offering ourselves to seek the truth, hit home. Not all of them do. Rock music fans, especially U2 fans, sometimes need to be reminded that song lyrics seldom stand well on their own.

Stellman really excels when he is bringing out the great riches present in Scripture. Again, mirroring Lumen Fidei, Stellman shows how the Decalogue is meant not simply as a veto on naughty human actions, but as a liberation of humans from the passions and idolatries he's been describing and toward a life of spiritual abundance. (I would complain that he describes the Commandments using the Protestant rather than the Catholic numbering, but my own contribution to ecumenical outreach is to say let's do it the way Protestants and Jews do.) Using Job, Stellman shows how the real objection to God's existence, the problem of evil, is met by God's presence, ultimately in the form of Jesus Christ, whose Resurrection and Ascension show us, in a limited way, what we will be. Stellman's final pop-culture flourish is to use the movie Memento, which tells its story alternating between scenes starting in the beginning and moving forward and the end moving backward, as an analogy to the way in which the light of faith works. We know the destiny of the species is assured, but the light of faith, while illuminating all of life, doesn't usually show us more than we need for our own personal immediate steps ahead. “One step enough for me,” in Newman's famous words. Stellman's vision of Christianity answers exactly to the two primary aspects of Chesterton's personal philosophy in Orthodoxy. In the light of the future prepared for us, life is both familiar and unfamiliar, marvelous and unsatisfactory. It is not merely a biological process, but a high adventure. The Destiny of the Species: Man and the Future that Pulls Him
by Jason J. Stellman
Wipf & Stock, 2013 
128 pages

 


TOPICS: Apologetics; Catholic; Evangelical Christian; Ministry/Outreach
KEYWORDS: apologetics; calvinism; catholic; catholicapologist; federalvision; jasonstellman; peterleithart; presbyterian; stellman
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To: Elsie

“It must be in the same epistle that tells that Mary was assumed.”

Are you saying you don’t believe in Matthew’s gospel being inspired?


261 posted on 07/29/2013 7:09:59 PM PDT by vladimir998
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To: Elsie

“I guess I missed the Catohilic teaching that stated “taken up to heaven in a whirlwind” was wrong.”

Not wrong. Just not about the abode of God. And that’s what Protestant by-and-large believe too. Remember Christians believe Jesus opened the gates of Heaven with His death and resurrection.

“Thanks for feeding me the TRUTH!”

At least Calvinisaurus didn’t eat that.


262 posted on 07/29/2013 7:11:55 PM PDT by vladimir998
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To: Elsie

“You have any record in the bible that says Calvinosaurus did NOT eat my cat?”

Are you claiming that Calvinosaurus ate your cat?

I rest my case.


263 posted on 07/29/2013 7:12:59 PM PDT by vladimir998
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To: .45 Long Colt
“No man can come to me, except the Father which hath sent me draw him:and I will raise him up at the last day. It is written in the prophets, And they shall be all taught of God. Every man therefore that hath heard, and hath learned of the Father, cometh unto me.” (John 6:44-45)

John 6:35-59
New International Version (NIV)
35 Then Jesus declared, “I am the bread of life. Whoever comes to me will never go hungry, and whoever believes in me will never be thirsty. 36 But as I told you, you have seen me and still you do not believe. 37 All those the Father gives me will come to me, and whoever comes to me I will never drive away. 38 For I have come down from heaven not to do my will but to do the will of him who sent me. 39 And this is the will of him who sent me, that I shall lose none of all those he has given me, but raise them up at the last day. 40 For my Father’s will is that everyone who looks to the Son and believes in him shall have eternal life, and I will raise them up at the last day.” 41 At this the Jews there began to grumble about him because he said, “I am the bread that came down from heaven.” 42 They said, “Is this not Jesus, the son of Joseph, whose father and mother we know? How can he now say, ‘I came down from heaven’?” 43 “Stop grumbling among yourselves,” Jesus answered. 44 “No one can come to me unless the Father who sent me draws them, and I will raise them up at the last day. 45 It is written in the Prophets: ‘They will all be taught by God.’[a] Everyone who has heard the Father and learned from him comes to me. 46 No one has seen the Father except the one who is from God; only he has seen the Father. 47 Very truly I tell you, the one who believes has eternal life. 48 I am the bread of life. 49 Your ancestors ate the manna in the wilderness, yet they died. 50 But here is the bread that comes down from heaven, which anyone may eat and not die. 51 I am the living bread that came down from heaven. Whoever eats this bread will live forever. This bread is my flesh, which I will give for the life of the world.” 52 Then the Jews began to argue sharply among themselves, “How can this man give us his flesh to eat?” 53 Jesus said to them, “Very truly I tell you, unless you eat the flesh of the Son of Man and drink his blood, you have no life in you. 54 Whoever eats my flesh and drinks my blood has eternal life, and I will raise them up at the last day. 55 For my flesh is real food and my blood is real drink. 56 Whoever eats my flesh and drinks my blood remains in me, and I in them. 57 Just as the living Father sent me and I live because of the Father, so the one who feeds on me will live because of me. 58 This is the bread that came down from heaven. Your ancestors ate manna and died, but whoever feeds on this bread will live forever.” 59 He said this while teaching in the synagogue in Capernaum.

At that time the Feast of Dedication took place at Jerusalem. (John 10:22)

What Feast is this? Where is it in Scripture?

“All things have been handed over to me by my Father, and no one knows who the Son is except the Father, or who the Father is except the Son and anyone to whom the Son chooses to reveal him.” (Luke 10:22)

21 At that time Jesus, full of joy through the Holy Spirit, said, “I praise you, Father, Lord of heaven and earth, because you have hidden these things from the wise and learned, and revealed them to little children. Yes, Father, for this is what you were pleased to do. 22 “All things have been committed to me by my Father. No one knows who the Son is except the Father, and no one knows who the Father is except the Son and those to whom the Son chooses to reveal him.” 23 Then he turned to his disciples and said privately, “Blessed are the eyes that see what you see. 24 For I tell you that many prophets and kings wanted to see what you see but did not see it, and to hear what you hear but did not hear it.” The Parable of the Good Samaritan 25 On one occasion an expert in the law stood up to test Jesus. “Teacher,” he asked, “what must I do to inherit eternal life?” 26 “What is written in the Law?” he replied. “How do you read it?” 27 He answered, “‘Love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your strength and with all your mind’[a]; and, ‘Love your neighbor as yourself.’[b]” 28 “You have answered correctly,” Jesus replied. “Do this and you will live.” 29 But he wanted to justify himself, so he asked Jesus, “And who is my neighbor?”

How did this lawyer know the right answer?

John 3:3 “Jesus answered and said unto him, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born again, he cannot see the kingdom of God.”

John 3
New International Version (NIV)
Jesus Teaches Nicodemus
3 Now there was a Pharisee, a man named Nicodemus who was a member of the Jewish ruling council. 2 He came to Jesus at night and said, “Rabbi, we know that you are a teacher who has come from God. For no one could perform the signs you are doing if God were not with him.” 3 Jesus replied, “Very truly I tell you, no one can see the kingdom of God unless they are born again.[a]” 4 “How can someone be born when they are old?” Nicodemus asked. “Surely they cannot enter a second time into their mother’s womb to be born!” 5 Jesus answered, “Very truly I tell you, no one can enter the kingdom of God unless they are born of water and the Spirit. 6 Flesh gives birth to flesh, but the Spirit[b] gives birth to spirit. 7 You should not be surprised at my saying, ‘You[c] must be born again.’ 8 The wind blows wherever it pleases. You hear its sound, but you cannot tell where it comes from or where it is going. So it is with everyone born of the Spirit.”[d] 9 “How can this be?” Nicodemus asked. 10 “You are Israel’s teacher,” said Jesus, “and do you not understand these things? 11 Very truly I tell you, we speak of what we know, and we testify to what we have seen, but still you people do not accept our testimony. 12 I have spoken to you of earthly things and you do not believe; how then will you believe if I speak of heavenly things? 13 No one has ever gone into heaven except the one who came from heaven—the Son of Man.[e] 14 Just as Moses lifted up the snake in the wilderness, so the Son of Man must be lifted up,[f] 15 that everyone who believes may have eternal life in him.”[g]

What is this water? Why does Jesus not rebuke Nicodemus for calling him Rabbi? What does the title Rabbi mean? Where does it come from?
264 posted on 07/29/2013 7:14:48 PM PDT by ronnietherocket3
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To: vladimir998

Being unteachable and defiant about it doesn’t end well.
Do you know that, also?


265 posted on 07/29/2013 7:23:25 PM PDT by presently no screen name
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To: daniel1212

I have had a realization that changes my my perspective on this argument. Once I have developed it, I will respond; until such a time, I will not. If you want a pre-figuring of it: Heb 10:16, third and fifth joyful mysteries (try to find the actual verses), and Lk 24:45.


266 posted on 07/29/2013 7:23:46 PM PDT by ronnietherocket3
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To: vladimir998
No, it isn’t.

Of course it isn't to Catholics - their way is 'man'.

Christianity is THE WAY, they follow Jesus The Way. So they are called Christians.

267 posted on 07/29/2013 7:29:20 PM PDT by presently no screen name
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To: presently no screen name

Yes, so don’t be that way. Stop rejecting the truth.


268 posted on 07/29/2013 7:30:02 PM PDT by vladimir998
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To: presently no screen name

“Of course it isn’t to Catholics - their way is ‘man’.”

Nope. Our way is God and His Church. Your way goes back to Martin Luther and that’s it.

“Christianity is THE WAY, they follow Jesus The Way. So they are called Christians.”

It was called The Way FIRST. Thus, according to you, when Christianity was called The Way, and Christians were not yet called Christians, they must not have believed in Jesus alone, right? I mean, according to your logic, that has to be it, right?

The answer is inescapable. You fail. Again.


269 posted on 07/29/2013 7:32:29 PM PDT by vladimir998
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To: vladimir998
Again, show me all the 1st century evidence you have for Matthew’s gospel being inspired. Any Biblical evidence at all?

Still not willing to go to The Father, I see. Roaming about lost and uneducated feels more familiar to catholics. Your 'papa' says to welcome homos priest - go ask them, I'm sure they are ready to enlighten you.

270 posted on 07/29/2013 7:41:05 PM PDT by presently no screen name
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To: vladimir998
Nope. Our way is God and His Church

Really, Yet you won't go to God to get your question answered and ask for proof for Matthew being inspired. Sounds like frightened child syndrome.

So you might check on who you real father is. The one that wants you to welcome those who practices homosexuality. Nothing but the best for his children!

271 posted on 07/29/2013 7:50:03 PM PDT by presently no screen name
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To: vladimir998
Yes, they did - unless they were simply ignorant. And the quote you posted in no way gainsays what I said. Yes, it was. There’s much more evidence for that belief than the reverse.

While it is likely "they" accepted that Mary, the mother of Jesus, died and was buried, I'm specifically talking about the doctrine that she was miraculously assumed into heaven, body and soul. The Catholic Church has never formally defined whether she died or not and NOTHING in Scripture mentions anything about it and, if it is intended by God to be a divinely-revealed belief mandated (essential to the faith) for all Christians, it certainly should have been mentioned, wouldn't you think? Mary died decades before the letters of John were written, yet the Apostle Jesus entrusted the care of his mother to, never gives the slightest hint about this "miracle" happening to Mary. Why not?

We don't have ANY real knowledge of the day, year, and manner of Mary's death. The dates which are presumed for her death vary between three and fifteen years after Christ's Ascension. As the article I quoted earlier stated, the idea was first expressed in narratives of the fifth and sixth centuries. That doesn't sound like it was ALWAYS by EVERYONE believed, ignorant or not. It wasn't until the TWENTIETH (1946) century that the Catholic Church started to define it as a "proposition of faith" and then on November 1, 1950, the Feast of All Saints, Pope Pius XII declared as a dogma revealed by God that "Mary, the immaculate perpetually Virgin Mother of God, after the completion of her earthly life, was assumed body and soul into the glory of Heaven".

I'd like to see all this "evidence" you have that disputes what even Catholic references have to say about the subject. And, again, y'all can believe whatever you want about this, where I object, and I am not alone, is when it becomes MANDATED for all Christians to believe and those who reject it are branded as heretics and mortal sinners for not accepting ALL that the magesterium decides is divinely revealed truth. This isn't a case of "we're" right everyone else is wrong and Catholics find themselves forced to defend a doctrine that they may not even agree with for the same reasons other don't, only they aren't ALLOWED to say so.

272 posted on 07/29/2013 8:54:22 PM PDT by boatbums (God is ready to assume full responsibility for the life wholly yielded to Him.)
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To: ronnietherocket3
I have had a realization that changes my my perspective on this argument. Once I have developed it, I will respond; until such a time, I will not. If you want a pre-figuring of it: Heb 10:16, third and fifth joyful mysteries (try to find the actual verses), and Lk 24:45.

The verse to see is what follows Heb. 10:16, explaining part of why the new covenant is better: "Having therefore, brethren, boldness to enter into the holiest by the blood of Jesus.." (Hebrews 10:19)

For this provides direct access to God, not a need or provision to meet with saintly secretaries.

And indeed, "Then opened he their understanding, that they might understand the scriptures" (Luke 24:45) - not traditions, and it is the Scriptures which Rome's tradition of hyper exaltation of Mary goes beyond and is contrary to.

273 posted on 07/30/2013 2:37:15 AM PDT by daniel1212 (Come to the Lord Jesus as a contrite damned+destitute sinner, trust Him to save you, then live 4 Him)
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To: vladimir998; presently no screen name; Elsie
Can you answer my questions or not? Here they are again: 1) Where in the Word does it say Matthew wrote a gospel? 2) Where in the Word does it say Matthew’s gospel is inspired?

I have not been following this thread recently, but just responding to pings to me, but i looked further today and saw your reply here and would like to know what your argument is. Thanks.

274 posted on 07/30/2013 3:24:17 AM PDT by daniel1212 (Come to the Lord Jesus as a contrite damned+destitute sinner, trust Him to save you, then live 4 Him)
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To: presently no screen name

Well, as I expected, you can’t answer the question I asked. You’ll keep throwing in the kitchen sink. Perhaps you think no one will notice how terribly you have failed? Typical.


275 posted on 07/30/2013 4:08:10 AM PDT by vladimir998
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To: presently no screen name

“Really, Yet you won’t go to God to get your question...”

I asked you.

“So you might check on who you real father is.”

Your father is apparently the father of lies. I wonder how desperate you will get to cover up the fact that you can’t answer my question?


276 posted on 07/30/2013 4:10:06 AM PDT by vladimir998
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To: vladimir998
I asked you.

I'm not your god.

Break that catholic teaching of asking 'man', go to GOD The Father like His Son Jesus taught us to do.

277 posted on 07/30/2013 4:15:55 AM PDT by presently no screen name
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To: boatbums

“I’d like to see all this “evidence” you have that disputes what even Catholic references have to say about the subject.”

It’s amazing how quickly and often anti-Catholics resort to lies. I never said anything that disputed “Catholic references”. What the Catholic references say is that there is no EXPLICIT scriptural reference and no EXPLICIT historical reference in the first 4 centuries. The earliest references show a complete acceptance of the doctrine and that acceptance could only come if it was known everywhere and for a very long time.

To say anything else about what I said is to lie - outright lie.


278 posted on 07/30/2013 4:16:16 AM PDT by vladimir998
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To: daniel1212

“I have not been following this thread recently, but just responding to pings to me, but i looked further today and saw your reply here and would like to know what your argument is. Thanks.”

You’ll have to read the thread. I still waiting for an answer. Thanks.


279 posted on 07/30/2013 4:18:38 AM PDT by vladimir998
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To: vladimir998
Perhaps you think no one will notice how terribly you have failed?

People? Your interested in what 'people' will think? That's a 'fear of man' spirit working in you and it's not from God. Do what is right and shame the devil.

280 posted on 07/30/2013 4:19:05 AM PDT by presently no screen name
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