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To: Iscool

You have been asked three times to document that Jesus said you must be “born again” You have failed to do so. Don’t ever repeat this lie again.
I have shown clearly that the term is “Born from above” If you say anything else it will be cleat to all that you are repeating a lie that you know is a lie.


406 posted on 07/25/2013 4:24:02 AM PDT by verga (A nation divided by Zero!)
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To: verga
I have shown clearly that the term is “Born from above” If you say anything else it will be cleat to all that you are repeating a lie that you know is a lie.

You haven't shown anything other than you think you are smarter than the real scholars who translated the bible into English...The word you are losing your soup over can and has been translated as born again...And that's the only way the scripture makes any sense...

You can rest assured I won't lose any sleep over your tantrum...

412 posted on 07/25/2013 6:02:51 AM PDT by Iscool
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To: verga

Obviously you’ve done some research on this word “anothen”, is there anywhere in the Scriptures that it is used to mean “beginning” or “anew”?


416 posted on 07/25/2013 6:39:44 AM PDT by count-your-change (you don't have to be brilliant, not being stupid is enough)
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To: verga; Iscool
Don’t ever repeat this lie again. I have shown clearly that the term is “Born from above” If you say anything else it will be cleat to all that you are repeating a lie that you know is a lie.

So sayeth Pope Verga!

How silly can this get???!!! Why don't you explain to us all how saying born "from above" and born "again" in the context of Jesus' sermon to Nicodemus is that big of a difference? The Greek word used in the text HAS been proved to mean from above OR again as well as others, but it doesn't really matter what any of us thinks two thousand years later since Nicodemus obviously questioned how a man could go back into his mother's womb and be reborn. Being born again into the family of God, adopted as HIS own children, being a new creature in Christ by the grace of God through faith is the lesson that STILL applies today.

442 posted on 07/25/2013 4:38:56 PM PDT by boatbums (God is ready to assume full responsibility for the life wholly yielded to Him.)
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To: verga; Iscool
John 3:3 Jesus answered and said to him, Truly, truly, I say to you, Except a man be born again font color=red>anóthen, he cannot see the kingdom of God.

http://biblesuite.com/strongs/greek/509.htm

anóthen
Short Definition: from above, from the beginning, again
Definition: (a) from above, from heaven, (b) from the beginning, from their origin (source), from of old, (c) again, anew.

Please don’t accuse someone of lying when Strongs, Thayers, and NASEC all agree that again is indeed one of the interpretations of that word.

You either need to prove that again is not one of the interpretations as Strongs, Thayers, and NASEC say it is or you owe Iscool an apology and a post that admits that he did indeed state one of the correct interpretations. I will mark this post and ask Iscool as well as other readers of this thread to mark this post and await either your proof or apology.

443 posted on 07/25/2013 6:32:14 PM PDT by CynicalBear (For I decided to know nothing among you except Jesus Christ)
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