Posted on 07/22/2013 2:45:09 PM PDT by NYer
Sad!
Catholic and Protestant are called “The Whore and her daughters” by Yeshua in his Revelation.
I have read both the KJV and the New American Standard Catholic Bibles cover to cover and I don't recall seeing either of the words Catholic or Protestant in there. Could you cite chapter and verse where these words appear?
Thank you for sharing your experience.
Why catholics continually fail and have been easily deceived by the DECEIVER is that they have no UNDERSTANDING of the supernatural which JESUS was talking about. Jesus gave up HIS BODY and shed ALL His Blood for all to be saved and now you are eating and drinking it? That's demonstrating a belief that you don't believe Jesus - exactly what the deceiver wants you to believe - that JESUS didn't give up His Body/Blood for you. Participating in it makes it a personal belief - and the guilt of it - is one catholics 'own' individually, they have no Savior. What Jesus did for all, HE didn't do for them.
Catholics are not spirit filled so they have NO understanding what Jesus was teaching. They take it literally for that is all the understanding they have since they chose to be in a 'worldly and secular' church.
Satan's kingdom is made up of 'man-made teachings' and satan's followers cannot understand the things of God which are Spirit/supernatural. Transubstantiation is a man made belief and those who bow to it, bow to satan unknowingly. However, they remain unteachable so now they do it 'all on their own accord'. So now they have no eternal life but a life deemed to hell - just where satan wants them.
'Man made teachings' teach of purgatory, which is unbiblical. There is heaven and hell. Purgatory is hell - 'man' simply changed the name of 'the place of fire'. The deceiver is a LIAR - satan's only weapon is deception and teaches worship of man is not worship but 'venerate'. The deceiver LIES. The bible calls it idolatry. 'Man made teachings' void God's Word. So it's not surprising God's Word is not Catholics final authority BUT it will be on Judgement Day and they will have NO ONE to blame but themselves.
Then it's way too late then to even kick themselves for allowing themselves to be deceived and being so prideful while being 'religious'. Did they really think the 'angel of light' was going to show his true colors? Realizing then, if they ONLY LISTENED and OBEYED GOD'S WORD ALONE - no one could have deceived them. Being unteachable is being prideful. Living w/that knowledge for eternity - that they did it all to themselves - for they won't entertain that now - but they WILL have that knowledge and entertain it for eternity and that they, personally, defended the indefensible themselves.
Good lurk to you!
Very well done, sir. You have made quite a convincing case and summarized it very well. Lots of evidence and consistency in each case of evidence. Appreciate it.
My mother, Alice, like Mary is dead! I miss her, and she was a saint, to me. BUT, my mother can no more intercede for me than Mary can do so for Roman Catholics. The is ONLY ONE Intercessor between God and man!
Paul makes the point abundantly clear in 1 Timothy 2: 2 I urge, then, first of all, that petitions, prayers, intercession and thanksgiving be made for all people— 2 for kings and all those in authority, that we may live peaceful and quiet lives in all godliness and holiness. 3 This is good, and pleases God our Savior, 4 who wants all people to be saved and to come to a knowledge of the truth. 5 For there is one God and one mediator between God and mankind, the man Christ Jesus, 6 who gave himself as a ransom for all people. ...
Where exactly did JESUS say that? Exodus lists the 10 Commandments given to Moses on the mountain. Paul, in his letter to Ephesus said:
Eph. 6: 6 Children, obey your parents in the Lord, for this is right. 2 “Honor your father and mother”—which is the first commandment with a promise— 3 “so that it may go well with you and that you may enjoy long life on the earth.”
4 Fathers, do not exasperate your children; instead, bring them up in the training and instruction of the Lord.
5 Slaves, obey your earthly masters with respect and fear, and with sincerity of heart, just as you would obey Christ. 6 Obey them not only to win their favor when their eye is on you, but as slaves of Christ, doing the will of God from your heart. 7 Serve wholeheartedly, as if you were serving the Lord, not people, 8 because you know that the Lord will reward each one for whatever good they do, whether they are slave or free. ...
Please note that Paul then addressed the FATHERS and then SLAVES. He gave little address to mothers.
You can rant all you want and pray useless rote prayers, but they get no closer to God than the floor. "God is a Spirit, and those that worship Him must worship Him in Spirit and in truth..." -John 4:24
As we can see, it can mean from above...It can mean 'again'...
Oddly enough, Google Translate has only two translations: above, and from above. Nothing about 'again'.
Bing Translator has 'above' only.
Where did you find your translation?
You have learned something far from truth and and now are trying to teach error to others! God does not operate a "dog and pony show" for the benefit of men. Paul makes the point abundantly clear who can intercede for us sinners, and their purpose, in 1 Timothy 2: 2 I urge, then, first of all, that petitions, prayers, intercession and thanksgiving be made for all people— 2 for kings and all those in authority, that we may live peaceful and quiet lives in all godliness and holiness. 3 This is good, and pleases God our Savior, 4 who wants all people to be saved and to come to a knowledge of the truth. 5 For there is one God and one mediator between God and mankind, the man Christ Jesus, 6 who gave himself as a ransom for all people. ..
Very cute!
Whose Greek??? There's a bunch of them out there...
Dr. Zodhiates is a protestant native speaking Greek with a Doctorate of Theology. I have also studied Greek at the graduate level.
So did the KJV translators...You better at it than they were???
Now why exactly are you disagreeing with Dr. Zodhiates? Are you a native speaking Greek with a Doctorate of Theology? Have you studied Greek at the graduate level?
Don't need to...All these smart guys wrote books...And I can read the books...And these smart guys don't all agree with each other...
Can you translate better than the translators that translated all the bibles out there??? If you can't, you wasted a lot of time and money...
The only one copying and regurgitating is you, and when you have at least the credentials I have then I might consider listening to your stolen opinion.
I hope you don't break your arm patting yourself on the back... Theology eh??? So you studied about religion but you didn't bother to study the bible...And that clearly shows...
LOL...
I join in your prayer.
Again not accurate. Neither Catholics nor Orthodox pray to Mary or the saints. We ask them to pray for us. I’m assuming that you have asked others to pray for you, we do likewise. We however are willing to also make the request of the Church Triumphant. After all we.believe that those who have fallen asleep in The Lord have eternal life and can thus pray for us.
Thank you, it is nice to have hard work appreciated.
Please ping me if he every replies.
Sound and fury signifying nothing.
All that BLUSTER and BLATHER and yet not one thing disputing what was said.
Jesus said what He said and there is no denying it. Nor is there any denying what those who actually heard Him thought. No denying that Jesus did not correct their thinking even when others left over this hard saying.
Catholics are both/and believers since we know that Jesus’ flesh profits everything for us, just as He promised.
This post is nothing more than a protestant debate trick. Don’t respond to the specific but rail away with passion and CAPS as if offended to even be asked to give a reasoned response.
Carry on. You are doing a fine job.
Can you translate better than the translators that translated all the bibles out there??? If you can't, you wasted a lot of time and money...
Mark asked you a question in #249, please answer him before you embarrass yourself further.
How about you prove they didn’t.
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