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To: Gamecock
Having read her book, I think she means hating people because they are homosexuals, ie the Westover Baptist types.

I find it difficult to classify the Westover Baptist types as Christians regardless of what they might say. And I think many other Christians feel the same way. I'm certainly not going to judge them but they are people that I wouldn't hang around with to study the scriptures.

Homosexuals are fallen image bearers, just like we once were. Our sin was just as detestable to God as that of the unrepentant homosexual.

All sinners are fallen image bearers. And the only distinction between the righteous and the unrighteous is that our Lord has set His glaze upon us for some unknown reason. And we walk in His footsteps because He makes us to do so for His name sake. We have nothing to rejoice over except Christ's finish work because it isn't anything that we have done.

That being said, it is a mistake to think unbelievers are all the same. That is like believing all demons are the same or all angels are the same. Lumping people into two classification is a real danger in Reformed thinking-at least for me. Scripture doesn't teach this. God purposely told the Israelites go into the Promise Land and destroy inhabitants because their wickedness had reach the heavens. And when the Israelites started acting the very same way centuries later, God had the Babylonians and Assyrians go in and destroy them.

Society does not build up. It constantly becomes more and more ungodly. This is the lesson of scripture (and history) over and over again. We are depraved people. Throughout time God sends flashes of His light to illuminate us and set us back on track. It may be war. It may be famine. But it is something that knocks us on the side of our head to bring us back to Him. And this wrath that God brings on us is for our own good so that we might be saved.

Embedded in every man is a moral compass. The law is written on everyone's heart. It's this moral compass that keeps us at least reasonably on track for a period of time. The law suppresses our depravity and forestall God's rightful and just wrath. I'm reminded of many cases in scripture where unbelievers respond to the voice of God. That is not to say they become believers but only that they bow to His will because He is God. Some of the more famous of these cases are Balaam, the Pharaoh of Egypt during Abraham's time (Gen 12), and the people of Nineveh with Jonah.

But there are those who abandon this morality and set their will firmly against God's will. They will not give an inch to God. These are people like the Pharaoh of Moses' time, Belshazzar, or Jezebel. These people purposely set their will against God. Unlike unbelievers who at times follow their God given moral compass, these unbelievers willingly exchange a truth for a lie and purposely worship the creature rather than the creator. They aren't deceived. They know what they're doing and are glad to be doing it.

Granted we are all wicked and depraved before the Lord. But while most are only so because they are deceived, others purposely set their wills against God. They relish in their rebellion.

The real problem for Christians is that we no longer hate evil. And I'm including myself in this rebuke. We fool ourselves into accepting people for what they are, afraid to speak out against what is evil. Not so with those who would curse and renounce the Lord. Yet we say Christian attitude is the cause of our problems. The problem isn't homosexuality but homophobes. All the while the world grows darker with sin.

15 posted on 07/16/2013 5:47:15 PM PDT by HarleyD
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To: HarleyD

Not suggesting we embrace the sin or sugar coat it. But being obnoxious towards nonbelievers does’t either.

While neither one of us would confuse Westboro with Christianity, the world does. We need to break through that stereotype to reach out to lost souls.


16 posted on 07/16/2013 6:15:41 PM PDT by Gamecock (Member: NAACAC)
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