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To: daniel1212; Heart-Rest
From http://jimmyakin.com/2006/02/old_testament_s.html:

For long centuries, the Church has referred to certain Old Testament persons as “Saints.”

The ancient MARTYROLOGIUM ROMANUM (the Church’s official “calendar book” of saints) that was re-edited and re-published in 2001 lists the days of several Old Testament saints–and calls them by the title “Saint”.

Saint Melchisedech, August 26.
Saint Abraham, October 9.
Saint Moses, September 4.
Saint Joshua, September 1.
Saint Ezra, July 13.
Saint Hosea, October 17.
Saint Obadiah, November 19.
Saint Jonah, September 21.
Saint Elijah, July 20.
Saint Elisha, June 14.
Saint Jeremiah, May 1.
Saint Samuel, August 20.
Saint David, December 29.
Saint Michael and Saint Raphael, September 29.
Saint Isaiah, May 9.
Saint Job, May 10.
Saint Zechariah, September 6.
Saint Joel, October 19.
Saint Amos, June 15.
Saint Ezekiel, July 23.
Saint Nahum, December 1.
Saint Habakkuk, December 2.
Saint Zephaniah, December 3.
Saint Haggai, December 16.
Saint Malachi, December 18.
Saint Micah, December 21.

All the Forefather Saints of Jesus Christ, December 24. (In Latin this can include “foremothers”. I looked for Old Testament women’s names, but didn’t find any … yet. The book has nearly 800 pages.) Notice the prophets in December … leading up to the Birth of the Savior.

909 posted on 07/16/2013 8:56:40 PM PDT by boatbums (God is ready to assume full responsibility for the life wholly yielded to Him.)
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To: boatbums

Dem old school; we new school...

We be LATTER day saints!

—MormonDude(When would be a good ti... aw heck - y’all know the rest!)


962 posted on 07/17/2013 5:40:08 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: boatbums; daniel1212
You list a bunch of Old Testament figures who came to be recognized by the Church as saints (of course after Jesus redeemed them on His cross), and seem to imply that since there is no mention in the New Testament of anyone asking those saints to pray for them, that means that nobody ever did ask them to pray for them. (If I'm wrong about your intent in your post there, boatbums, as stated here, please correct me.)

The Gospels end with the Crucifixion and Resurrection of Jesus, and it was not until then that those Old Testament figures were redeemed, and their souls went to heaven.

The rest of the New Testament contains mostly letters written to address various problems or situations in the Church, as well as accounts of some of the major actions of the early Church, and they do not contain very many references at all to any of the prayers being said at the time, so it means nothing that you do not see any references to those Christians asking those dead saints to pray for them.

Do you see any references to the Apostles (or anyone else) actually praying "The Lord's Prayer" ("The Our Father") anywhere in the New Testament, after Jesus gave them that very special prayer (as recorded in Matthew and Luke)?

(The purpose of the "books" of the New testament was NOT to document all the prayers they made, even though we can assume that they were praying constantly. God did not deem it necessary to document all the prayers they made, or He would have had all that information included somewhere in those New Testament "books".)

Does the fact that you do not see any such references whatsoever to the "Our Father" in the rest of the New Testament mean that none of those Christians in the early Church were praying it?

Of course it doesn't mean that!

1,538 posted on 07/21/2013 10:51:41 AM PDT by Heart-Rest (Good reading ==> | ncregister.com | catholic.com | ewtn.com | newadvent.org |)
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