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To: metmom; Elsie

That's interesting because we have other sources posted here that say the supreme authority for Catholics is either the pope or the "Church"

Pope Pius XI asserted salvation is dependent on obedience to the supreme authority of St. Peter and his legitimate successors, and while the popes are not, yet another said, Holy Scripture is invested with supreme authority by reason of its sure and momentous teachings regarding the faith. Whatever, then, it tells us of Enoch, Elias and Moses - that we believe. We do not, for instance, believe that God's Son was born of the Virgin Mary simply because He could not otherwise have appeared in the flesh and 'walked amongst men' - as Faustus would have it - but we believe it simply because it is written in Scripture; and unless we believe in Scripture we can neither be Christians nor be saved. (http://www.vatican.va/holy_father/benedict_xv/encyclicals/documents/hf_ben-xv_enc_15091920_spiritus-paraclitus_en.html)

Yet what this really means is that Scripture only has authority Rome gives it as being the supreme authority, since the only list of books and interpretations of them that have any authority according to Rome, is that which she gives, while actual warrant from Scripture is not necessary for Rome's doctrines, for she declares truth by fiat, for if she "infallibly" declares something then it is true and cannot be wrong, including that she is infallible. J. Smith presumed the same it seems.

1,212 posted on 07/18/2013 1:28:29 AM PDT by daniel1212 (Come to the Lord Jesus as a contrite damned+destitute sinner, trust Him to save you, then live 4 Him)

To: daniel1212; District13; teppe; restornu; Normandy

Pope Pius XI asserted salvation is dependent on obedience...

So THAT's where the MORMONs get it from!!!

1,216 posted on 07/18/2013 5:20:08 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)

To: daniel1212; District13; teppe; restornu; Normandy

... THAT's where the MORMONs get it from!!!

But JESUS said....

John 6:28-29

Then they asked him, “What must we do to do the works God requires?”

Jesus answered, “The work of God is this: to believe in the one he has sent.”

1,217 posted on 07/18/2013 5:21:46 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)

To: daniel1212; District13; teppe; restornu; Normandy

And JOHN chimes in as well:

1 John 3:21-24
Dear friends, if our hearts do not condemn us, we have confidence before God and receive from him anything we ask, because we keep his commands and do what pleases him. And this is his command: to believe in the name of his Son, Jesus Christ, and to love one another as he commanded us. The one who keeps God’s commands lives in him, and he in them. And this is how we know that he lives in us: We know it by the Spirit he gave us.

1,218 posted on 07/18/2013 5:22:43 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)

To: daniel1212; District13; teppe; restornu; Normandy

(The two above posts will now get trumped by an excessive amount of words from church FATHERS.)

1,219 posted on 07/18/2013 5:23:37 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)

To: daniel1212; Tennessee Nana

Wow, Dan!

You got reply 1212!

How cool is THAT!!

Nana; eat yer heart out!

1,220 posted on 07/18/2013 5:24:42 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)

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