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To: Heart-Rest
the Holy Spirit was guiding the Church in her teachings before one word of the New Testament was written down, and the Holy Spirit has been guiding the Church in her teachings ever since, just like Jesus Christ solemnly promised.

Of course you mean your Catholic Church...However, there is not a single bit of evidence for that...We are to believe because your religion claims it??? The Mormons claim the same thing...So that means your religion is tied for first place among those religions who claim to be Christian but don't believe the bible...

That Catholic Church which Jesus Christ built is NOT based on the traditions of men -- that is utterly false, no matter how many times you choose to repeat it. The Catholic Church which Jesus Christ built is based on the Holy Teachings of God, given to men.

Those teaching aren't in the scriptures...Where are they??? Who were they given to??? And when???

The Scriptures are very important, but they only contain a small smidgen of what God has done, and what God continues to do.

If you want to put an legitimacy to your claim, show us what God has done outside the scriptures pertaining to your religion...Otherwise, you may as well be blowing bubbles...

John 21:25 explicitly states that Jesus did many other things that were NOT written down, and that all the books in the world would likely not be able to hold all of them.

So what did Jesus tell you guys that he didn't write in the scriptures??? You got anything??? Anything at all???

1,025 posted on 07/17/2013 9:12:46 AM PDT by Iscool
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To: Iscool
"If you want to put an legitimacy to your claim, show us what God has done outside the scriptures pertaining to your religion...Otherwise, you may as well be blowing bubbles..."    "So what did Jesus tell you guys that he didn't write in the scriptures??? You got anything??? Anything at all???"

Iscool, we've all seen that you and your buddies here have been told the answer to that question numerous times, but you obdurately refuse to accept it.

The "New Testament" consists of 27 "books", most of which are "letters" written by Paul, and John, and Peter, etc.    Many other letters were written by Christians at that time, as well as other accounts of Christian endeavors, and so forth.    Show us anywhere in the Bible where it says which of all those writings should be included in that New Testament.

The truth is that there is no such text -- that was decided by human beings based on guidance provided by God OUTSIDE THE WRITTEN SCRIPTURES!!!

(There is no specification in the Bible as to which written documents to include in the New Testament, and there is no account in the Bible about how those writings were selected. Those things were all done "outside the Scriptures".)    If you dispute that, then show us all the exact text where it is specified what writings should be included in the New Testament.

In the past, when you or your buddies have been asked to provide that text, you quickly change the subject, and start going through all kinds of gyrations and contortions and misdirection to try to obfuscate that point and dodge the question.

The real truth, whether you wish to accept it or not, is that there is no text anywhere in the Bible that tells anyone which writings belong in the New Testament.    That decision was determined by human beings in Church Councils under the infallible guidance of God.

1,249 posted on 07/18/2013 3:57:09 PM PDT by Heart-Rest (Good reading ==> | ncregister.com | catholic.com | ewtn.com | newadvent.org |)
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