Where Does the Bible Say We Should Pray to Dead Saints?

catholic-convert ^ | July 11, 2012 | Steve Ray

[Elsie]

You also seem to be plugging in the word "ONLY" here from your own mind, not from the words of Jesus Christ.

"What MUST we do..."

[Elsie]

It does not seem very prudent to refer to that Church which Christ loved so much as "the whore of Babylon".

Then just who IS that whore; according to RCC teaching?

[Elsie]

Psst...

Let’s get them dumb PROTESTants fussing amoungst themselves.

We’ll get a little rest that way!

—CatholicDude(ex-hewer of wood and carrier of water)

[Elsie]

Sometimes I go off my meds...

[Elsie]

We are showing you what God says, not what he means...

Jesus answered, “The work of God is this: to believe in the one he has sent.”

--John 6:29

[metmom]

John 8:36So if the Son sets you free, you will be free indeed.

[metmom]

The Pharisees thought Jesus was crazy, too, and accused Him of being demon possessed.

I am keeping good company with Jesus.

John 15:18-228 “If the world hates you, know that it has hated me before it hated you. 19 If you were of the world, the world would love you as its own; but because you are not of the world, but I chose you out of the world, therefore the world hates you. 20 Remember the word that I said to you: ‘A servant is not greater than his master.’ If they persecuted me, they will also persecute you. If they kept my word, they will also keep yours. 21 But all these things they will do to you on account of my name, because they do not know him who sent me. 22 If I had not come and spoken to them, they would not have been guilty of sin, but now they have no excuse for their sin

[Elsie]

If the Methodists and Pentacostals and Adventists (and Catholics) and others are right, you CAN lose your salvation after you've "been saved".

Where would they get a crazy idea like THAT?

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   “See to it, brothers, that none of you has a sinful, unbelieving heart that turns away from the living God. But encourage one another daily, as long as it is called Today, so that none of you may be hardened by sin’s deceitfulness. We have come to share in Christ if we hold firmly till the end the confidence we had at first.”

Matthew 24:10-13    ¹⁰ And then many will be offended, will betray one another, and will hate one another. ¹¹ Then many false prophets will rise up and deceive many. ¹² And because lawlessness will abound, the love of many will grow cold. ¹³ But he who endures to the end shall be saved.

     “Now, brothers, I want to remind you of the gospel I preached to you, which you received and on which you have taken your stand. ²By this gospel you are saved, if you hold firmly to the word I preached to you. Otherwise, you have believed in vain.”

    “If they have escaped the corruption of the world by knowing our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ and are again entangled in it and overcome, they are worse off at the end than they were at the beginning. It would have been better for them not to have known the way of righteousness, than to have known it and then to turn their backs on the sacred command that was passed on to them. Of them the proverbs are true: ‘A dog returns to its vomit,’ and, ‘A sow that is washed goes back to her wallowing in the mud.’ ”

   “He who overcomes will, like them, be dressed in white. I will never blot out his name from the book of life, but will acknowledge his name before my Father and his angels.”

“No, I beat my body and make it my slave so that after I have preached to others, I myself will not be disqualified for the prize.”

[Elsie]

Where would they get a crazy idea like THAT?

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Not to worry; for the MORMONs will glom onto their name and proxy baptize them, while Catholics will be asking Saints to intervene in getting their souls from Purgatory...

[Elsie]

That is the point -- Protestants do not agree on that most important question of of all Christians.

Simple solution: We PROTESTants will get together and have the Holy Spirit lead us (our newly formed COUNCIL) to put it to a vote.

OBVIOUSLY; the MAJORITY of the voters will win the day, and that ALONE will PROVE that the Holy Spirit was leading them!

[Elsie]

And I never said Calvinists can’t sin.

It mattereth not.

The IMPORTANT thing is that we get you PROTESTAnts fighting amoungst each other here!

--CatholicDude(Mary is NOT dead in her tomb!)

[Elsie]

Congratulations, Elsie,

Aw...  shucks...

 

[Elsie]

Of course people ( and Satan) would have you believe that you have to work to earn or keep your salvation.

"What MUST we do...

[Elsie]

...those bogeyman ideas...

You spelled BATMAN wrong...

[Elsie]

Narses - you are needed here!

It’s time for a Breakfast of Champions!

[Elsie]

OOOPS!!

The scripture references mostly disappeared!

DAMN that SATAN!

[Elsie]

Hebrews 3:12–14

Matthew 24:10-13

1 Corinthians 15:1, 2

2 Peter 2:20–22

Revelation 3:5

1 Corinthians 9:27

[Heart-Rest]

"Simple solution: We PROTESTants will get together and have the Holy Spirit lead us (our newly formed COUNCIL) to put it to a vote. OBVIOUSLY; the MAJORITY of the voters will win the day, and that ALONE will PROVE that the Holy Spirit was leading them! "

You are getting close to swerving into the truth there, Elsie.

The very fact that you recognize that the Holy Spirit does not and CANNOT teach contradictory teachings should prove to you that the Holy Spirit is not guiding the Protestant denominations in their obviously contradictory teachings, especially on such an extremely importan issue as salvation.

Official Catholic teachings have never been contradictory in over 2,000 years. What do you think that could mean, Elsie?

Keep on studying!

[Iscool]

Space and time did not exist until God created them. God existed before He created them and will continue to exist after they are both gone.

Where do you get the idea that space will end???

[.45 Long Colt]

“What MUST we do...”

Here is what Charles Spurgeon once said of the Arminian. As you read this quote let your mind replace “Arminian” with “Roman Catholic.”

Spurgeon once said, “What the Arminian wants to do is to arouse man’s activity: what we want to do is to kill it once for all-—to show him that he is lost and ruined, and that his activities are not now at all equal to the work of conversion; that he must look upward. They seek to make the man stand up: we seek to bring him down, and make him feel that there he lies in the hand of God, and that his business is to submit himself to God, and cry aloud, ‘Lord, save, or we perish.’ We hold that man is never so near grace as when he begins to feel he can do nothing at all. When he says, ‘I can pray, I can believe, I can do this, and I can do the other,’ marks of self-sufficiency and arrogance are on his brow.”
- C. H. Spurgeon