Posted on 07/14/2013 3:02:43 PM PDT by NYer
No I got it perfectly. I missed nothing. I just wanted to give you some biblical insight into perseverance. It’s a doctrine that gives the born-again believer much comfort.
Yes, I disagree with some of my Protestant brethren, but the disputes among Protestants will be settled in eternity. Someday we will all have a more perfect understanding of what God has done for us. Adventists aside, the rest of us agree that salvation is by grace through faith in Christ alone. Catholics believe no such thing. You believe a different gospel. There are many many unbiblical wicked ornaments on the Catholic tree, but ultimately we are divided over the very heart of the gospel. That’s why Luther and the other Reformers had to leave Rome.
And I never said Calvinists can’t sin. I said the precise opposite. I said that old sin nature will be with us to the end. Reading is fundamental.
Also, I’m sorry if reading a lot of Scripture troubles you. Your attitude isn’t all that surprising. Rome kept the Scriptures from the people for centuries and attacked those godly men who had the temerity to translate it into the vulgar tongues. Rome still doesn’t emphasize the Word.
Confronting,sobering yet comforting and encouraging! Thank God for His Word.
"Sanctify them through thy truth: thy word is truth."..."Be not afraid, only believe."..."For God hath not given us the spirit of fear; but of power, and of love, and of a sound mind"..."Let every man be fully persuaded in his own mind"..."for I know whom I have believed, and am persuaded that he is able to keep that which I have committed unto him against that day."
(John 17:17-2 Tim 1:7-Mark 5:36-Romans 14:5-2 Tim 1:12)
First time I’ve ever seen a- g speechless placemarker.
Congratulations, Elsie,
So who does the interpreting in the Catholic church?
And who interprets the interpreters?
And how do you know the interpreters got it right?
And if lay Catholics can’t,( are not capable of or are not allowed to) correctly interpret Scripture, then how can they be capable of correctly interpreting the interpretations of the interpreters?
If we don’t work to earn our salvation, we don’t work to keep it.
Please refer back to post 151 in this thread for relevant Scripture to Jesus’ promise that we are eternally secure.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/3044057/posts?page=151#151
Of course people ( and Satan) would have you believe that you have to work to earn or keep your salvation. It’s the best way going to keep people in bondage and tied to their religion. That way, people then don’t realize the freedom into which they’ve been born again.
Right after the word “ Yawn” your post very quickly passed from the rational into a highly irrational diatribe about ....
something.....
Your random word generator is working very well. Looks like you got your money’s worth.
On the contrary, YOU totally missed the point.
.45 didn’t even begin to claim the Calvinists can’t sin any more.
I’m sure reading comprehension is part of literacy lessons.
Try it sometime.
Oh, the poor, pitiful, persecuted papists!
It's not a case of "persecuted papists", it's a case of barking moon-bats who twist Scripture to their own destruction then resort to lies, half-truths, and slander when anyone disagrees with their personal interpretation of the subset of Scripture they pretend they do accept as Truth.
Lather up in some Superslick CLG and explain away contradicting Jesus Christ if you like, but get used to the idea of hearing, "I never knew you" from the very same Jesus Christ you ignore.
What a WHINER! He only has to worry about ONE crummy day a year; while I have the weight of the world on my back Every Day of the YEAR!!!
He might get airsick occasionally (whoWOULDn't be a bit queezy; looking at reindeer butts all night long), but have you seen how MY petitioners DRIVE??
Yow! and there am I; swinging wildly from their mirror (which they hardly ever use) or bouncing along with my feet stuck on their dashboard, hoping that the GPS (Yeah - they got FAITH alright!) doesn't fall from the windshield and bean me again!
Just WHO is going to rise from their graves at the last trump of Christ?
Like those shown in 1196?
I think you need some SATAN lessons in Scripture quoting and understanding!
(Think False Prophets...)
"What MUST we do..."
(PSST... ignore some of our ignoble popes. They were some REALLY bad dudes!)
Pope Stephen VI (896–897), who had his predecessor Pope Formosus exhumed, tried, de-fingered, briefly reburied, and thrown in the Tiber.[1]
Pope John XII (955–964), who gave land to a mistress, murdered several people, and was killed by a man who caught him in bed with his wife.
Pope Benedict IX (1032–1044, 1045, 1047–1048), who "sold" the Papacy
Pope Boniface VIII (1294–1303), who is lampooned in Dante's Divine Comedy
Pope Urban VI (1378–1389), who complained that he did not hear enough screaming when Cardinals who had conspired against him were tortured.[2]
Pope Alexander VI (1492–1503), a Borgia, who was guilty of nepotism and whose unattended corpse swelled until it could barely fit in a coffin.[3]
Pope Leo X (1513–1521), a spendthrift member of the Medici family who once spent 1/7 of his predecessors' reserves on a single ceremony[4]
Pope Clement VII (1523–1534), also a Medici, whose power-politicking with France, Spain, and Germany got Rome sacked.
HMMMmmm...
Is there any text, anywhere, that tells us that church councils are under the infallible guidance of God?
CB; GOD has ADDED some more data!
Protestants (as well as) Catholics are now Non-Heavenly Hookers!!
So if they both end will God end?
We who believe the bible do not waste our time on what we can not know...But one thing we do know is that time exists and God is operating within that time spectrum, at least for the time being...
Operating in, but not subject to. God has no limits. space has 3 dimensions (Length, width, and depth). Time is the 4th dimension, duration. Space and time did not exist until God created them. God existed before He created them and will continue to exist after they are both gone.
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