[Alex Murphy]

What we don’t see is the argument that Alex is making here. This is significant. If it were so, we would see it then. But we do not. We’re supposed to believe that a Church that has no existence whatsoever before John Knox has it right, while the Church that was in existence prior to Knox has it wrong.

You posts claims that I'm making "this argument", that I'm making it "here", and that you "don't see it". Maybe the reason no one can see it is that I haven't made it.

[JCBreckenridge]

“You posts claims that I’m making “this argument”, that I’m making it “here”, and that you “don’t see it”. Maybe the reason no one can see it is that I haven’t made it.”

You have a definition of apostolicity that is contrary to what Ireneaus and Tertullian claimed. Hence the question.

When did this definition that you are advocating here first appear? Who was the first person to make this argument?