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Hollow and deceptive philosophy like these from Martin Luther father of all the tens of thousands of non-Catholic groups

“To my mind it (the book of the Apocalypse) bears upon it no marks of an apostolic or prophetic character... Everyone may form his own judgment of this book; as for myself, I feel an aversion to it, and to me this is sufficient reason for rejecting it.”[61]

“Moses is an executioner, a cruel lictor, a torturer a torturer who tears our flesh out with pincers and makes us suffer martyrdom . . . Whoever, in the name of Christ, terrifies and troubles consciences, is not the messenger of Christ, but of the devil . . . Let us therefore send Moses packing and for ever.”[4]

“If we allow them - the Commandments - any influence in our conscience, they become the cloak of all evil, heresies and blasphemies.” (Comm. ad Galat, p. 310)

“It is more important to guard against good works than against sin.”[22]

“If I had to baptize a Jew, I would take him to the bridge of the Elbe, hang a stone round his neck and push him over with the words I baptize thee in the name of Abraham”[36]

“The Jews deserve to be hanged on gallows seven times higher than ordinary thieves.”[37]

1,817 posted on 06/11/2013 10:40:53 PM PDT by Rashputin (Jesus Christ doesn't evacuate His troops, He leads them to victory.)
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To: Rashputin
Sounds like Luther was trying to work his way into THIS group!!



Pope Stephen VI (896–897), who had his predecessor Pope Formosus exhumed, tried, de-fingered, briefly reburied, and thrown in the Tiber.[1]

Pope John XII (955–964), who gave land to a mistress, murdered several people, and was killed by a man who caught him in bed with his wife.

Pope Benedict IX (1032–1044, 1045, 1047–1048), who "sold" the Papacy

Pope Boniface VIII (1294–1303), who is lampooned in Dante's Divine Comedy

Pope Urban VI (1378–1389), who complained that he did not hear enough screaming when Cardinals who had conspired against him were tortured.[2]

Pope Alexander VI (1492–1503), a Borgia, who was guilty of nepotism and whose unattended corpse swelled until it could barely fit in a coffin.[3]

Pope Leo X (1513–1521), a spendthrift member of the Medici family who once spent 1/7 of his predecessors' reserves on a single ceremony[4]

Pope Clement VII (1523–1534), also a Medici, whose power-politicking with France, Spain, and Germany got Rome sacked.

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Bad_Popes

1,833 posted on 06/12/2013 6:45:33 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Rashputin
philosophy like these from Martin Luther father of all the tens of thousands of

It was NOT philosophy coming from Luther. It was TRUTH and Rome and it's subjects DO NOT KNOW Truth when they hear or read it! So not surprised Rome and their subjects are still in angst over it - and the reason being IT IS TRUTH. Their 'man made teachings' got exposed - Thank YOU, JESUS - Your plan all along for Luther!

I didn't read the quotes you printed - coming from ROME it is only deception! It's garbage in, garbage out so I will not take it in. It would be wise for you to do the same.

1,853 posted on 06/12/2013 1:23:13 PM PDT by presently no screen name
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To: Rashputin; presently no screen name; Greetings_Puny_Humans
Tsk, tsk! Catholics complaining and moaning if a non-Catholic Christian DARES to quote paragraphs of “church” father, but who have no hesitation in quote mining Reformers’ writings if it helps them prove their point. In truth, these partial, cherry-picked snippets - lacking in context OR full quotation (notice the liberal use of the ellipses) - do nothing to aid their argument since Martin Luther wasn't the “father of all the tens of thousands of non-Catholic groups”, anyway, not even considered a “pope”. He sure seems to get under their skins a lot, though! I imagine he would have a chuckle over that.
1,865 posted on 06/12/2013 9:15:03 PM PDT by boatbums (God is ready to assume full responsibility for the life wholly yielded to Him.)
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