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What makes you think that God's Word is limited to the written Word? It isn't

IT IS!! And get over it because you will be judged by the Written Word - not man-made doctrine! So keep up! Not understanding what is written; yet claiming that's not all there is! LOL! A double-minded man... Go to the back of the class and have our resident scholar, Daniel1212, teach you. GOD'S WORD is The FINAL Authority! Hear and Obey IT, it's the only way to please The Father is to BELIEVE His Son, Jesus The Word

Some clarification is in order, while i do not think of myself as a scholar, which others FR posters here may be, but more of a student and researcher who has some things to share .

It is not the SS position that all knowledge that can be known from God is written in Scripture, for we see therein that there is more, (Jn. 21:25; 2Cor. 12:4; Rv. 10:4) but that the Scripture formally (limited) and materially provide all that man needs for salvation and growth toward perfection. The material sense includes gifted teachers of the word, but not as assured infallible and superior in authority to it, as Rome presumes. White states ,

First of all, it is not a claim that the Bible contains all knowledge. The Bible is not exhaustive in every detail. John 21:25 speaks to the fact that there are many things that Jesus said and did that are not recorded in John, or, in fact, in any book in the world because the whole books of the world could not contain it. But the Bible does not have to be exhaustive to function as the sole rule of faith [supee standard] for the Church. We do not need to know the color of Thomas' eyes.

While some present a straw man SS that excludes all but the Scriptures in understanding truth (versus Scripture being the standard as trhe assured word of God), Westminster states.

Nevertheless we acknowledge the inward illumination of the Spirit of God to be necessary for the saving understanding of such things as are revealed in the Word; and that there are some circumstances concerning the worship of God, and the government of the Church, common to human actions and societies, which are to be ordered by the light of nature and Christian prudence, according to the general rules of the Word, which are always to be observed.”

III. It belongs to synods and councils, ministerially to determine controversies of faith, and cases of conscience; to set down rules and directions for the better ordering of the public worship of God, and government of his Church; to receive complaints in cases of maladministration, and authoritatively to determine the same; which decrees and determinations, if consonant to the Word of God, are to be received with reverence and submission; not only for their agreement with the Word, but also for the power whereby they are made, as being an ordinance of God appointed thereunto in His Word. http://www.spurgeon.org/~phil/creeds/wcf.htm

In addition, while God's word can include things not written in Scripture, such as His latest command to Gabriel, nothing unknown would contradict Scripture. However, what is distinctive from Rome and sola ecclesia (the church is the supreme judge and can make her nebulous oral tradition equal to Scripture) is that Scripture is the assured word of God, and transcendent standard for obedience and testing and establishing truth claims, which is abundantly shown to be , as it ALONE is affirmed to be wholly inspired of God. (2Tim. 3:15,16) Thus my position is that all truth claims are subject to proof by it.

The writings of Scripture themselves were progressively established as being from God, like as men of God were, due to their unique Scriptural substantiation in Divine qualities, attestation and conflation with had been written (Moses as the first writer being first affirmed by supernatural means and holiness confirmatory of the faith of Abraham). Like the Divine incense, there is none like unto it.

The "powers that be" on earth are to confirm what is manifestly of God, yet men and writings of God are such before their affirmation, and as Scripture makes clear, they often were rejected by those in power, while God preserved faith among the relative remnant by raising up men from without the magisterium to reprove it (without rejecting the office itself).

And thus the church began and thus it has been preserved as the body of God, which transcends external boundaries, and is manifest as being of the living God by supernatural means, gaining its members via manifest regeneration, versus its institutionalized counterpart.

Now back to packing.

1,746 posted on 06/11/2013 11:03:17 AM PDT by daniel1212 (Come to the Lord Jesus as a contrite damned+destitute sinner, trust Him to save you, then live 4 Him)
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To: daniel1212
"It is not the SS position that all knowledge that can be known from God is written in Scripture..."

Just as I have been quick to criticize when we disagree I must commend you when we agree. What I see, with respect to SS, is so very similar to many of the other doctrinal disagreements. There simply is no clear agreement or even a consensus within Protestantism as to what is meant by Sola Scriptura. To some, it means what it did to Luther; that all knowledge necessary for Salvation is sufficiently contained in Scripture. However, to many modern Protestants Sola Scriptura has come to mean that all knowledge necessary for Salvation is exclusively contained in Scripture. There are numerous variants in between. In these discussions one is never clear which variant is being discussed.

Peace be with you

1,747 posted on 06/11/2013 11:18:52 AM PDT by Natural Law (Jesus did not leave us a book, He left us a Church.)
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To: daniel1212
...And get over it because you will be judged by the Written Word ...

...and books were opened.


(Somewhere in Revelation; IIRC.)

1,753 posted on 06/11/2013 12:05:43 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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