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To: Natural Law
It is by Eve's disobedience that Man fell, and it is by Mary's obedience that Man is saved.

Blasphemy!

Scripture that Catholics claim the Catholic church wrote states thus....

Romans 5:1-21 Therefore, since we have been justified by faith, we have peace with God through our Lord Jesus Christ. 2 Through him we have also obtained access by faith into this grace in which we stand, and we rejoice in hope of the glory of God. 3 Not only that, but we rejoice in our sufferings, knowing that suffering produces endurance, 4 and endurance produces character, and character produces hope, 5 and hope does not put us to shame, because God's love has been poured into our hearts through the Holy Spirit who has been given to us.

6 For while we were still weak, at the right time Christ died for the ungodly. 7 For one will scarcely die for a righteous person—though perhaps for a good person one would dare even to die— 8 but God shows his love for us in that while we were still sinners, Christ died for us. 9 Since, therefore, we have now been justified by his blood, much more shall we be saved by him from the wrath of God. 10 For if while we were enemies we were reconciled to God by the death of his Son, much more, now that we are reconciled, shall we be saved by his life. 11 More than that, we also rejoice in God through our Lord Jesus Christ, through whom we have now received reconciliation.

12 Therefore, just as sin came into the world through one man, and death through sin, and so death spread to all men because all sinned— 13 for sin indeed was in the world before the law was given, but sin is not counted where there is no law. 14 Yet death reigned from Adam to Moses, even over those whose sinning was not like the transgression of Adam, who was a type of the one who was to come.

15 But the free gift is not like the trespass. For if many died through one man's trespass, much more have the grace of God and the free gift by the grace of that one man Jesus Christ abounded for many. 16 And the free gift is not like the result of that one man's sin. For the judgment following one trespass brought condemnation, but the free gift following many trespasses brought justification. 17 For if, because of one man's trespass, death reigned through that one man, much more will those who receive the abundance of grace and the free gift of righteousness reign in life through the one man Jesus Christ.

18 Therefore, as one trespass led to condemnation for all men, so one act of righteousness leads to justification and life for all men. 19 For as by the one man's disobedience the many were made sinners, so by the one man's obedience the many will be made righteous. 20 Now the law came in to increase the trespass, but where sin increased, grace abounded all the more, 21 so that, as sin reigned in death, grace also might reign through righteousness leading to eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord.

There's not one verse in the Bible that states that Mary was the second Eve, nor that salvation comes through her.

1,242 posted on 06/04/2013 8:21:26 PM PDT by metmom (For freedom Christ has set us free; stand firm therefore & do not submit again to a yoke of slavery)
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To: metmom
"There's not one verse in the Bible that states that Mary was the second Eve..."

There is not one verse in the Bible that says we are look only to the Bible for the Revealed Word.

If you do not have an understanding of the Trinity and the Incarnation you cannot understand Mary. It cannot be found in a single verse, but woven within the Greatest Story Ever Told. Mary IS the Mother of God. The child She conceived and bore IS the God the Son. In His divine nature He existed eternally. In His human nature He owed to her as much as any man owes his human nature to his mother. As God He was born of the Father before all ages; as man He was born at a particular moment is time of the Virgin Mary. She was not the mother of His human nature, natures do not have mothers. She IS the Mother of God.

Mary is who She is only because Jesus is who He is. Jesus, ever perfect existed before His mother so He was in a position to choose who His mother would be and could choose the mother that would suit him. The very nature of a son wants to give his mother gifts; and Christ, being God had no limit on His capacity to give. What she wanted most was the most complete union with God will a human could have and Grace in her soul. He gave lavishly and she responded sinlessly.

1,245 posted on 06/04/2013 8:49:37 PM PDT by Natural Law (Jesus did not leave us a book, He left us a Church.)
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To: metmom
Therefore, since we have been justified by faith, we have peace with God
 
 
Therefore, since we have been justified by faith, we have peace with God
 
 
Therefore, since we have been justified by faith, we have peace with God
 
 
Therefore, since we have been justified by faith, we have peace with God
 
 
Therefore, since we have been justified by faith, we have peace with God
 
 
Therefore, since we have been justified by faith, we have peace with God
 
 
 
 
What must we do...
 

1,253 posted on 06/05/2013 3:51:57 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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