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To: CynicalBear
"How many times did Christ say “it is written”?"

Jesus was only speaking of the Old Testament, not the New which had yet to be written. Now ask yourself how many times Jesus said "You have heard" followed by Jesus changing what was written.

"He did however promise every believer the indwelling of the Holy Spirit for guidance."

Jesus promised a Paraclete to guide His Church. If He promised an indwelling spirit to guide how do you explain so many, many different Protestant interpretations and doctrinal differences? Maybe those voices aren't the Holy Spirit, but something far more sinister leading away from the unity He calls us to.

1,065 posted on 06/03/2013 5:41:56 PM PDT by Natural Law (Jesus did not leave us a book, He left us a Church.)
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To: Natural Law
>>Now ask yourself how many times Jesus said "You have heard" followed by Jesus changing what was written.<<

I can’t believe you actually typed and sent that statement. The “you have heard” reference was to something people “heard”, aka word of mouth, aka “tradition”. Jesus NEVER changed what was “written”. Putting the sentence in the way you did appears to be intent to deceive. Again, Jesus NEVER changed what was written and I would challenge you to show me one instance.<<

>>Jesus promised a Paraclete to guide His Church.<<

Please give the scripture for that. Jesus promised the Holy Spirit and that was to all believers.

Acts 15:8 And God, who knows the heart, bore witness by granting them the holy Spirit just as he did us. 9 He made no distinction between us and them, for by faith he purified their hearts.

Falling for the line that only the RCC has that “advocate” or “helper” is once again contrary to scripture and Catholics had better remove themselves from under that deceptive regime or “partake of her sins and receive her plagues”.

>> If He promised an indwelling spirit to guide how do you explain so many, many different Protestant interpretations and doctrinal differences?<<

That’s a very easy one. Once again people rely on the guidance of “the organization” rather than rely on scripture and the guidance of the Holy Spirit. When a person is “taught” by error they will skew scripture to match the teachings of that organization. Look at most all of the Protestant church organizations. They still retain many of the pagan practices of the mother church they came out of.

>> Maybe those voices aren't the Holy Spirit<<

Of course they aren’t. Look at references to “the church fathers”, Luther, Calvin or any other source rather than scripture for their beliefs.

>> but something far more sinister leading away from the unity He calls us to.<<

God does not call us to unity with those who preach “another gospel”.

1,066 posted on 06/03/2013 6:20:19 PM PDT by CynicalBear (For I decided to know nothing among you except Jesus Christ)
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To: Natural Law
Jesus was only speaking of the Old Testament, not the New which had yet to be written.

And yet the Magic guys end up telling us what the NT means.

Can't Anything be uncircular here?

1,080 posted on 06/03/2013 8:08:07 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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