WHY ARE OUR CATHOLIC LAITY SO ILLITERATE WHEN IT COMES TO THE CATHOLIC FAITH

Southern Orders ^ | May 31, 2013 | Fr. Allan J. McDonald

[Elsie]

Were you to attempt to try this in any court of relevance you would be disqualified for lack of standing.

"No other Rock."

[Elsie]

Mary was sinless because God preserved her from sin.

Have you met Natural Law??

Were you to attempt to try this in any court of relevance you would be disqualified for lack of standing.

[Elsie]

You’re the ones who decided to harass us.

Said the Birdman to Tyler Hansbrough

[Elsie]

Where does scripture say this?

It's right near the verse that says, "Mary was sinless because God preserved her from sin."

[Elsie]

That would be the only court of competency and relevance. I chose not to comment on the balance of your opinions because they don't merit a response.

I get we'll need one of these for our RCC friends:

 

MORMON

ATTITUDES OF SUPERIORITY

 

  1. I’m Superior; I have a special gift of the holy Ghost -- you don’t!
  2. I’m Superior; I have God’s true priesthood power -- you don’t!
  3. I’m Superior; I can go in God’s secret Temple -- you can’t!
  4. I’m Superior; I’ve been Endowed with special Gifts and Knowledge -- you’re just normal!
  5. I’m Superior; I’ll have my family with me in heaven -- you’ll be with strangers!
  6. I’m Superior; I’m becoming a God -- you aren’t!
  7. I’m Superior; My women know their place as servants of man and yours don’t.
  8. I’m Superior; YOUR creeds are wrong because they come from man - mine comes from God (you can find each one printed in our Scriptures).
  9. I’m Superior; I don’t HAVE a creed - I’ve got 13 Articles of Faith.
10. I'm Superior; I have 4 "Bibles"-- the standard works (5 if you count the JST) -- you've only got one: in as far as it is translated correctly.
11. I’m Superior; I can lie with impunity about such things as church membership, church growth, church doctrine, church history, church influence, etc. —                           -- You can’t.
12. I’m Superior; I am right (everybody knows) when I say 'evangelical' Christians are lunatics -- 

                           -- You’re a hideous narrow-minded bigot, who is persecuting me by practicing discrimination by saying I'm not a Christian.
13. I'm Superior; I have a testimony about a prophet -- you don't.
14. I'm Superior; I have a Scripture-producing Amos 3:7 prophet -- you don't
15. I’m Superior; I have a Living Prophet who talks to god every day -- you have a dim-witted hireling of Satan who only talks to himself.
16. I'm Superior; I have my calling & election made sure -- you don't.
17. I’m Superior; I have magic underwear to protect me from the bogey man -- you don’t.
18. I’m Superior; I have secret clasps and grips to give the angel so I get admitted to the celestial kingdom -- you don’t ;so you can’t.
19. I'm Superior; I know secret handshake codes for afterlife entrances-- you don't.
20. I’m Superior; I will see Joseph Smith setting on the right hand of GOD, when I get to Mormon heaven, and he will recognize me and judge me favorably                              -- You’re on your own; when you get to wherever you’re going!
21. I’m Superior; I’m going to hie to Kolob -- you’re going to who knows where.
22. I’m Superior; I get to have a harem and act like a celestial stud for time and all eternity -- you don’t.
23. I’m Superior; I have sun stones, moon stones, sky stones, cloud stones, Saturn stones, and the evil eye of Osirus guarding my temple

                            -- You have nothing but a stupid cross.
24. I’m Superior; My church has billions in assets stashed away -- yours has taken a stupid vow of poverty.
25. I'm Superior; Last - we have the power to keep a whole race out of our priesthood if we wanted to reinsert our 148-year legacy  (we ARE still keeping an entire GENDER at bay!)

26.  I'm superior; I have the "higher law" -- everyone else "lives under the "lesser law' because I say so...(over and over).

 

 

Revision 46.5

Semi-Official creed of the EXclusive club of Freeper Flying Inmans.

All rights liable to be abused.

[Elsie]

Gabriel said she was “full of grace”.”

I thought only SINNERS NEEDED the GRACE of GOD?

[Elsie]

Grace, faith, works, belief, being born from above, and baptism are among a few of the many ways mentioned in Scripture.

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John 6:28-29

Then they asked him, “What must we do to do the works God requires?”

Jesus answered, “The work of God is this: to believe in the one he has sent.”

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1 John 3:21-24

Dear friends, if our hearts do not condemn us, we have confidence before God and receive from him anything we ask, because we keep his commands and do what pleases him. And this is his command: to believe in the name of his Son, Jesus Christ, and to love one another as he commanded us. The one who keeps God’s commands lives in him, and he in them. And this is how we know that he lives in us: We know it by the Spirit he gave us.

[Elsie]

Nothing circular about that.

Or factual.

[Elsie]

No, but I feel compelled to try.

That's why I post SCRIPOTURE.

We PROTESTants (and seekers) have to make up our minds if it's, 1, true, and 2, if it's worth believeing.

Catholics apparently do NOT have to make these hard DECISIONS.

[Elsie]

Jesus said “THIS IS MY BODY” and “THIS IS MY BLOOD”.

HE also said:

Get thee behind me, Satan."

(Not an auspicious start for the 'First Pope'.)

[MarkBsnr]

When Jesus says his Father and He are one, what does your cult make of it? How do they spin it?

I'm not in a cult

Sure. Pull this leg and it plays Jingle Bells.

but not only is Jesus and the Father one but the Holy Spirit is included in the Trio...

Trio? You are comparing Almighty God to Rush or Triumph or Motorhead?

So who was Jesus praying to???

Didn't He say? What does your cult-approved Scripture tell you? C'mon. We'll see if it corresponds with Christian Scripture.

[MarkBsnr]

Self Alone folks claim that God Almighty is restrained by time and couldn't apply the sacrifice of His Son to Mary at the time of her conception.

Correct. They apply their own constraints to God and demand that He adhere to them.

They also claim that their sins were all in the future when Christ was crucified but are forgiven when they accept Christ which proves their heresy of Once Saved Always Saved because all their sins are forgiven in advance once they say the magic words. Like Luther, they insist that they are in fact free to commit murder a thousand times a day and it makes no difference whatsoever.

They consider themselves double 0 - naught. Licence to sin.

It logically flows from that combination of arguments that they believe God Almighty could not apply to the mother of His own Son exactly the same degree of ignoring time as we know it that He applies to them.

To them, God is limited to what they are limited to.

That's way beyond odd, it's another perfect example of a strong delusion in action.

Not sure of delusion, but surely a strong example of wanting something to exist very very strongly.

[MarkBsnr]

Hello.....The sin nature comes through the father.

I've seen this before. Where does it come from?

[Elsie]

Somehow, claiming to be a former Catholics gains some street cred in some circles.

While admitting that one is one currently is supposed to gain cred with GOD.

[Elsie]

What MUST we do...

[Elsie]

Those quotes don’t say anything about Jesus being born to a sinful human.

Or being assisted by a sinful midwife; either.

[Elsie]

So, you think the Bible is supposed to be an exhaustive source of all religious truth?

Of COURSE!!

Rome made SURE that all that was needed was combined into it.

(At least that's what I've heard...)

[Elsie]

The celibacy rule could be changed.

HMMMmmm...

Rule changing is FUN!

Just ask the Supreme Court!

[Petrosius]

Petrosius: But if you think you can find another Catholic liturgical book [emphasis by Elsie] where we worship Mary, go ahead.

Elsei: Are these the ONLY places I get to look?

The Catholic Church is a highly liturgical one and our worship is regulated by official books. Where else would you look?

[metmom]

The man. You know, those one’s who are the fathers.

Sin came through Adam. I posted the Scripture upthread.

Men are supposed to be the spiritual leaders in the home. It’s their responsibility. Eve was deceived, not Adam.

Adam, wonderful husband that he was, watched the dialogue between Eve and the serpent and watched her eat. He didn’t intervene even though HE knew better.