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WHY ARE OUR CATHOLIC LAITY SO ILLITERATE WHEN IT COMES TO THE CATHOLIC FAITH
Southern Orders ^
| May 31, 2013
| Fr. Allan J. McDonald
Posted on 05/31/2013 2:44:05 PM PDT by NYer
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To: Elsie
If you had NOT been obediant; Jesus might have been found under a Rock! I saw what you did there. Too funny. But otherwise...Augustine was correct, it was "Rocky" from the Rock, not the other way around.
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posted on
06/05/2013 8:47:52 AM PDT
by
BlueDragon
(Verum metuo, ne periclitetur veritas)
To: BlueDragon
Rocky makes kitty's eyes glazes over...
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posted on
06/05/2013 9:13:31 AM PDT
by
Elsie
(Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
To: NYer; BlueDragon
The New Testament shows that Christ deliberately created his Church to be the vehicle of his continuing mission in the world. He promised to remain present in his Church for all time, and he lovingly guides it through the presence of the Holy Spirit. The church is an organism, not an organization.
As members of said body of Christ, it is the responsibility of each person to be the vehicle of His continuing mission here on earth, empowered by the Holy Spirit dwelling in us and gifting us individually for whatever purpose He has for us individually.
The purpose of this authority is to give the Church the ability to teach without error about the essentials of salvation:
The purpose of the Holy Spirit is to guide us into all truth.
Scripture is all that is needed to bring a person to salvation. BlueDragon posted that from your own church in post 1260. Your own Catholic church says as much.
From Die Verbum; Therefore, since everything asserted by the inspired authors or sacred writers must be held to be asserted by the Holy Spirit, it follows that the books of Scripture must be acknowledged as teaching solidly, faithfully and without error that truth which God wanted put into sacred writings for the sake of salvation.
This same Church authority is the only thing that guarantees the accuracy and inerrancy of the Bible itself.
The Catholic church can guarantee nothing. The Holy Spirit breathed out Scripture. The Catholic church can render an opinion, can put its stamp of approval on it, but it CANNOT guarantee it. That alone belongs to God.
Catholic teaching prohibits in vitro fertilization, ...
On what basis? Its own opinion? Or on the Scripture that you claimed does not address contemporary issues?
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posted on
06/05/2013 9:25:35 AM PDT
by
metmom
(For freedom Christ has set us free; stand firm therefore & do not submit again to a yoke of slavery)
To: Elsie
"..Calvin was a Catholic!"Indeed he was, before he went off the rails providing first had proof that his OSAS doctrine was false.
Peace be with you.
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posted on
06/05/2013 9:26:03 AM PDT
by
Natural Law
(Jesus did not leave us a book, He left us a Church.)
To: Elsie
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posted on
06/05/2013 9:26:49 AM PDT
by
Natural Law
(Jesus did not leave us a book, He left us a Church.)
To: Elsie
If you had NOT been obediant; Jesus might have been found under a Rock! Now, that's funny!!!!
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posted on
06/05/2013 9:26:54 AM PDT
by
metmom
(For freedom Christ has set us free; stand firm therefore & do not submit again to a yoke of slavery)
To: Elsie
kitty says MEGO? sorry about that. It was in the first two citations on that page (and a few more mentions further down). I did go and investigate the footnotes there again, hoping to be able to provide more succinctly precise sourcing, and isolation, in hopes of avoiding the MEGO effect but found no simple remedy.
As to the pic --- what a pitiful kitty. Appears born that way, and I do know you are not.
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posted on
06/05/2013 9:38:11 AM PDT
by
BlueDragon
(Verum metuo, ne periclitetur veritas)
To: Natural Law; Elsie
Yes it is, but only in the best way, and more artfully restrained.
Holding most fast to that which is most important, Elsie rocks, doesn't he?
To: BlueDragon; Elsie
"Elsie rocks, doesn't he?"Yes he does. I have a feeling I would really like him if we got to know each other outside the forum. Same goes for you.
Cheers
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posted on
06/05/2013 11:09:48 AM PDT
by
Natural Law
(Jesus did not leave us a book, He left us a Church.)
To: rbmillerjr
I suppose you want the RCC to take a bow and receive praise from all over the universe for the Bible? And all of the writers were Catholic as well?
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posted on
06/05/2013 11:17:06 AM PDT
by
BipolarBob
(If the KJV of the Bible was good enough for Apostles, it's good enough for me.)
To: Natural Law
What!!??
You don't like me NOW??
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posted on
06/05/2013 11:18:22 AM PDT
by
Elsie
(Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
To: Natural Law
I read too fast.
REALLY like me?
Aw... shucks...
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posted on
06/05/2013 11:19:36 AM PDT
by
Elsie
(Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
To: BlueDragon
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posted on
06/05/2013 11:51:59 AM PDT
by
Elsie
(Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
To: Elsie
you didn't like the "rocky" theme, I take it.
What does that leave us with now? hippy, from hippopotamus?
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posted on
06/05/2013 12:15:48 PM PDT
by
BlueDragon
(another classic case of projection found on R forum, thank u vry much.Elvis has lefT the building!)
To: BlueDragon
It was either that; or The Teddy Bear’s Picnic.
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posted on
06/05/2013 1:53:48 PM PDT
by
Elsie
(Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
To: Elsie
"REALLY like me?" Yes, I do. You have a fantastic sense of humor and a sharp wit. I'm just not comfortable with what I love being the object (victim) of it. To Catholics criticism of the Church is as much a personal insult as criticism of our families. I'm sure that if we could limit our discussion to politics we could be great friends and of one mind.
Cheers
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posted on
06/05/2013 2:09:11 PM PDT
by
Natural Law
(Jesus did not leave us a book, He left us a Church.)
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To: WVKayaker; metmom; CynicalBear; bkaycee; Elsie
1 Corinthians 12: 27Now you are Christ’s body, and individually members of it.28And God has appointed in the church, first apostles, second prophets, third teachers, then miracles, then gifts of healings, helps, administrations, various kinds of tongues.29All are not apostles, are they? All are not prophets, are they? All are not teachers, are they? All are not workers of miracles, are they?30All do not have gifts of healings, do they? All do not speak with tongues, do they? All do not interpret, do they?31But earnestly desire the greater gifts.
And I show you a still more excellent way.
2 Thessalonians 2: 15So then, brethren, stand firm and hold to the traditions which you were taught, whether by word of mouth or by letter from us.
You guys do not get to create your own gospel. Paul tells us that the Church teaches, and has the words from God. Not individual humans.
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posted on
06/05/2013 2:21:05 PM PDT
by
MarkBsnr
(I would not believe in the Gospel, if the authority of the Catholic Church did not move me to do so.)
To: metmom
Why would God want to deny us salvation? He doesn't. Individual humans reject Him.
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posted on
06/05/2013 2:22:07 PM PDT
by
MarkBsnr
(I would not believe in the Gospel, if the authority of the Catholic Church did not move me to do so.)
To: Elsie
"What MUST we do..." The two Great Commandments.
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posted on
06/05/2013 2:22:46 PM PDT
by
MarkBsnr
(I would not believe in the Gospel, if the authority of the Catholic Church did not move me to do so.)
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