Posted on 05/25/2013 3:31:08 PM PDT by marshmallow
A Roman Catholic parish priest at an elite French ski resort has been stripped of his Church functions for refusing to renounce Freemasonry.
Father Pascal Vesin was ordered by his bishop to cease his work in the Alpine resort of Megeve, the parish said.
Bishop Yves Boivineau had warned Fr Vesin about his "active membership" of the Grand Orient de France lodge.
Freemasonry has been condemned as anti-Christian and anti-clerical by various popes through history.
Bishop Boivineau ordered the priest to cease his functions "at Rome's request", the parish said.
In March, the Vatican's Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith - effectively the Church's watchdog - asked for the priest's departure.
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I think there is a big difference between euro-masonry and what we have in the US, at least that’s the impression I get. That said, I’ve always wondered why a group that requires faith to join would even want anyone to join them who would be violating the rules of their faith to join. Seems like it’s defeating the purpose kinda.
Freegards
Too bad the Vatican wasn’t so zealous about kicking clergy out of the Church for molesting children.
Toying with occult forces is an extremely dangerous endeavor.Dabbling with evil has consequences. Those “secret fraternal” societies claiming kinship with and/or advanced knowledge of arcane secrets of Judaism and Christianity are not what they claim, and are neither Jewish or Christian.
While I do not profess myself to be a Christian, much less a Catholic Christian, I do have immense respect for their belief system. If simple strictures are followed, one is insulated from spiritual evil to a large degree.
In the battle of good versus evil, there are many foot soldiers trying their best to protect mankind.
Personally, an atheist doesn't trouble me as much as the individual who professes to believe in God, cloaks himself under cover of any established church, and secretly works to undermine that church, and it's teachings.
Who is really the evil one, in Gods eyes?
The atheist who honestly does not have any faith in the existence of a God or of Demons, but still conducts himself as a moral human being, deeming certain actions and behaviors intrinsically either right or wrong?
OR
The person who does firmly believe in God and Demons, but chooses to negotiate with evil elements, for their own personal amusement and advancement, knowing the potential costs to all of mankind?
An honest atheist did not commit a mortal sin, in this case.
That sin would be the dishonest priests.
God will judge us all by his laws, which are only dimly understood by mankind.
Judgement Day will be very interesting...not sure how we can plan to sit in the same section, but hey, I promise we will all meet up there!
The way of the Masons is always low key.
Yes. I have observed what you stated.
And there is the nonsense put on TV that purports to reflect history related to this. 10% factual 50% total lies 25% Pure ignorance 15% Twilight Zone.
Masonry Unmasked: An Insider Reveals the Secrets of the Lodge - John Salza
Why Catholics Cannot Be Masons - John Salza
Christianity and American Freemasonry - William Joseph Whalen
Freemasons will go to Heaven if they’re good people, too - that is, if they follow the Commandments and abide by the Law, because they honestly can’t know any better. They have substituted a sort of ritualistic, statist Unitarianism for belief in Jesus Christ, but they’re in a state of what used to be referred to as “invincible ignorance.” So while it’s no blame to them, it would be blameful for a knowledgeable Catholic, especially a priest, to become a Mason.
Most US Masons have no idea what’s behind their group. Protestants never had any problem with Freemasonry, even though it’s technically atheistic or esoteric, but that’s because most of them were unaware of the deeper connections. They liked the ritual, which was missing in the Protestant churches, and also the all-male secrecy part of it. Most US Masons, I suspect, have always just regarded it as a social and benevolent club. So they’re not to blame, and the only people to blame are we Catholics because we haven’t made the message clear.
What’s screwed up are the simple minded people who take everything they read about the Church in the DLEMM as gospel. Don’t trust the DLEMM unless of course they are reporting about the Church. Brilliant.
The Knights of Columbus have nothing to do with freemasonry. It is a fraternal organization with 3 degrees and you have to be a pratical Catholic to join. The KofC is pro-life and pro-traditional marriage, you don’t see that with the masons. Also, it was formed to be a benefit organization for widows and orphans and continues today with its AAA-rated Insurance products.
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You don’t worship the devil? You have never killed anyone?
Therefore the Church’s negative judgment in regard to Masonic association remains unchanged since their principles have always been considered irreconcilable with the doctrine of the Church and therefore membership in them remains forbidden. The faithful who enrol in Masonic associations are in a state of grave sin and may not receive Holy Communion.It is not within the competence of local ecclesiastical authorities to give a judgment on the nature of Masonic associations which would imply a derogation from what has been decided above, and this in line with the Declaration of this Sacred Congregation issued on 17 February 1981 (cf. AAS 73 1981 pp. 240-241; English language edition of L’Osservatore Romano, 9March 1981).
The Catholic Church is a private organization (and those Catholic FReepers know how much I like messing with them) that can make their own membership standards. Actually when it comes to pro-abortion politicians, they need to enforce them.
Some Protestant Christians have a problem with being Masons, others don’t. At least that’s what I’ve observed on the mason threads on FR.
Freegards
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