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To: roamer_1
...there seems to be two DIFFERENT 'yokes' being described here.

Yup.

It's unbelievable how this scripture gets twisted. At the Jerusalem Council there was "ONE" issue! We find it in [Acts 15:2]:

"When therefore Paul and Barnabas had no small dissension and disputation with them, they determined that Paul and Barnabas, and certain other of them, should go up to Jerusalem unto the apostles and elders about this question."

The word ZETAMATOS (ζητήματος) is singular and means what it means: a search for an answer; a debate regarding a question

The burden (the yoke) that James agreed to no longer place upon the Gentile converts (verse 19) was.........adult circumcision. That's what the issue was and that's what caused the Council to be convened in the first place:

[Acts 15:1]And certain men which came down from Judaea taught the brethren, and said, Except ye be circumcised after the manner of Moses, ye cannot be saved.

I'm still amazed as to how the "Church" continues to portray this passage as something entirely different from what it is.

378 posted on 05/23/2013 7:16:40 AM PDT by Diego1618 (q1)
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To: Diego1618
I'm still amazed as to how the "Church" continues to portray this passage as something entirely different from what it is.

Really? Considering the same 'curch' declared that 'you must be sprinkled with water in order to be saved', I would say it is SOSDD.

What gets me about the Jerusalem Council is that it's conclusion proclaims the fact that all of these gentiles have access to Moses.Everyone seems to forget that part... that they would be expected to learn as they go along...

And btw, I don't know that adult circumcision is even Torah based - Certainly not 'in order to be saved'... But all I have found in the Torah about adult circumcision is a prohibition wrt some ceremonies or temple access, IIRC. I think I have to go back into the talmud/mishna one of these days and figure out what they were pointing to... Because if this example is like every other one that happened under Yeshua, the emphasis is against some tradition.

379 posted on 05/23/2013 7:44:23 AM PDT by roamer_1 (Globalism is just socialism in a business suit.)
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To: Diego1618
I'm still amazed as to how the "Church" continues to portray this passage as something entirely different from what it is.

Yeah!

The 'church' should just IGNORE all them OTHER verses found in Acts 15!!

380 posted on 05/23/2013 10:11:52 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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