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To: Ruy Dias de Bivar
So? Can you come up with PROOF that worshiping on SUNDAY is the MARK OF THE BEAST? That used to be taught by Sabbatarians many years ago.

You know........I been trying to figure out for a long time where people get this strange idea about me. Don't include me in this silliness. Worship any day you want. I don't care.

Just don't tell me that the resurrection was on Sunday when every single Gospel says it was on Saturday. That's my point. The reason people worship on Sunday (in lieu of the Sabbath) is for the wrong reason! That's all....so worship when you want. I don't care!

After spending years examining Jewish writings in the Babylonian Talmud, Hebraist John Lightfoot wrote A Commentary on the New Testament from the Talmud and Hebraica, in which he expounded upon the Hebrew method of counting the days of the week.

Good grief! Doesn't it register with you at all that Lightfoot....a Protestant (1602 A.D./1675 A.D.)....would not accept a Sabbath resurrection and therefore do every thing in his power to make it appear...... not to be the case? The Protestant movement was only a short time removed from the "Fairy Tale" religion of Catholicism during his lifetime and had not yet dissolved themselves of most of its garbage. Still hasn't!

220 posted on 05/14/2013 12:17:20 PM PDT by Diego1618 ( Put "Ron" on the rock!)
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To: Diego1618

Luk 18:12 I fast twice in the week, I give tithes of all that I possess.

Since the word Week is sabbaths, by YOUR reconning this man fasted twice on sabbath day.

Did he eat breakfast, skip lunch, then supper?

It has been pointed out that at the time of Jesus, the Pharisees had a fast on Tuesday and Thursday, so the use of the word “twice in the sabbaths” is correctly translated twice in the week, as the KJV and all other translations have it.

Since you don’t have any confidence in Lightfoot, who spent his life in REAL bible study how about these quotes.

Bava Kama describes ten enactments ordained by a man named Ezra, including the public reading of the law “on the second and fifth days of the sabbath,” and the washing of clothes “on the fifth day of the sabbath” (Lightfoot, 2:375; Bava Kama, Chapter 7).

In Michael Rodkinson’s 1918 translation of Maccoth and Bava Kama, he accurately translated “the second day of the sabbath” as Monday, “the fifth day of the sabbath” as Thursday, and “the first of the sabbath” as Sunday.

http://www.apologeticspress.org/APContent.aspx?category=11&article=2022

I’ll still stick with these learned men rather than some johny-come-lately who has gone of on a real tangent.


222 posted on 05/14/2013 12:56:28 PM PDT by Ruy Dias de Bivar (When someone burns a cross on your lawn, the best firehose is an AK-47.)
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To: Diego1618
Just what ...is the MARK OF THE BEAST??


The Book says:

Revelation 13 (niv)

15 The second beast was given power to give breath to the image of the first beast, so that the image could speak and cause all who refused to worship the image to be killed. 16 It also forced all people, great and small, rich and poor, free and slave, to receive a mark on their right hands or on their foreheads, 17 so that they could not buy or sell unless they had the mark, which is the name of the beast or the number of its name.

18 This calls for wisdom. Let the person who has insight calculate the number of the beast, for it is the number of a man. That number is 666.


232 posted on 05/14/2013 4:21:48 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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