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To: Greetings_Puny_Humans
The idea of a constant tradition on this matter is simply fiction. It stands only by reading into the Fathers the current theology of Rome today, and falsely claiming that all held the same view.

You are constantly harping on this fiction. The Church Fathers did NOT all hold the same view on all things. The Magisterium is the harmonizing institution of the Church so that the Church holds the correct teachings in spite of any differences that any one or two individual theologists may propose.

I have differences between my impulses and Church teachings, such as capital punishment. I subject my theological beliefs to the Church. I do not pull a Martin Luther or Hans Kung and attempt to substitute my own theology for the Church's.

18 posted on 05/10/2013 4:35:35 PM PDT by MarkBsnr (I would not believe in the Gospel, if the authority of the Catholic Church did not move me to do so.)
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To: MarkBsnr

“You are constantly harping on this fiction. The Church Fathers did NOT all hold the same view on all things. The Magisterium is the harmonizing institution of the Church so that the Church holds the correct teachings in spite of any differences that any one or two individual theologists may propose.”


The Roman Catholic claim to fame is based on the idea that they are the inheritors of an unchanging tradition taken straight from the Apostles from day one. IOW, the diversity of views, even with Popes contradicting current RCC teachings, certainly disproves this notion. The tradition shouldn’t be different from one Bishop to another or one Pope to another, and it shouldn’t take more than a thousand years before someone even uses the phrase “Transubstantiation,” as opposed to consubstantiation, or some other iation, in a Council, and another few hundred years for them to even define what that meant (and even after that, there was disunity in their understanding of what Trent even taught on the matter).

The concept of a developing doctrine simply has no place within Rome’s claims of authority.


29 posted on 05/10/2013 5:46:56 PM PDT by Greetings_Puny_Humans
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To: MarkBsnr
The Magisterium is the harmonizing institution of the Church so that the Church holds the correct teachings in spite of any differences that any one or two individual theologists may propose.

Correct compared to WHAT?

Do you not REALLY mean a MAJORITY opinion?

38 posted on 05/10/2013 7:14:47 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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