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To: Greetings_Puny_Humans; Diego1618
Without the belief in the Trinity, one can only reach a number of other conclusions:

1. Jesus was not God. He was some kind of lesser god or demiurge (Jehovah's Witnesses)
2. Jesus was not God. He was a man who became God (Mormons)
3. Jesus was not God. He was a man who was possessed by God (Gnostics)
4. Jesus and the Father were the same, so Jesus was not man, so His sacrifice was not real as this was a spirit on the cross, a phantom (latter part is Moslem, former part is Unitarian or Oneness Pentecostal or UCG)

113 posted on 04/15/2013 9:39:41 PM PDT by Cronos (Latin presbuteros->Late Latin presbyter->Old English pruos->Middle Engl prest->priest)
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To: Cronos; Diego1618
4. Jesus and the Father were the same, so Jesus was not man, so His sacrifice was not real as this was a spirit on the cross, a phantom (latter part is Moslem, former part is Unitarian or Oneness Pentecostal or UCG)

I think you made a mistake here friend if "UCG" is United Church of God.

It's not the teaching of the bible or UCG that Jesus and the father are the same...and none of the rest of that statement is what UCG believes either. Can you please clarify?

Thanks!

128 posted on 04/16/2013 5:15:01 AM PDT by DouglasKC
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