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To: Vermont Crank
Actually, the Catholic (and probably Jewish) Spanish celebrated A thanksgiving in 1598 at Santa Fe ~ virtually on the same day Protestant Bretons celebrated A thanksgiving in 1598 at Bar Harbor Maine. They came under a French flag.

Even earlier, some Moslem Turks at a Spanish POW camp in South Carolina celebrated a similar 'thansgiving' called Ramadan, and Serbo-Croatian POWs celebrated a variety of Eastern Saint's Days, etc. at the same POW camp. They are the people who gave rise to the idea in Europe that you could find Serbo-Croatians all up and down the American coast and they lived with the Indians and would do translation.

Joseph Smith was selected as Governor for Jamestown colony precisely because he'd fought in the wars against the Turks, became a POW, and learned Serbian or Turkish himself.

The pilgrims were latecomers but quite possibly the FIRST legal arrivees at the Protestant Reserve King Philippe carved out of his vast Spanish holdings in North America. See what he was up to by reading all the codicils in the Treaty of London, 1604, which he, not the Brits, cramed down everybody else's throat!

190 posted on 04/11/2013 2:32:50 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: muawiyah
Joseph Smith was selected as Governor for Jamestown colony...

Now I've heard an AWFUL lot of claims about Smith's exploits; but THIS is a new one on me!

220 posted on 04/11/2013 7:24:07 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: muawiyah
Dear muawiyah. Bar Harbor. I have eaten lunch with my family there on top of Valley Peak over looking Sommes Sound - quite beautiful - and as we ate I told them the story of Fr Baird , the Jebbie who was arrested by the protestants for catechising the indians and brought to virginia as a captive

All of this, and more, is to be found in The Jesuit Relations

259 posted on 04/12/2013 4:59:42 AM PDT by Vermont Crank (Invisible yet are signs of the force of Tradition that'll act upon our inertia into Indifferentism)
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