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To: daniel1212
That is a lie, as the church actually began in schism from those who sat in the very seat of Moses, and the same apostle who wrote the above stated, "For there must be also heresies [schisms] among you, that they which are approved may be made manifest among you.

Dear Daniel. You do not seem to understand that there has always been only one religion and that one religion has God as its author and whose Dogmas, Morals and Worship were slowly revealed over time until all of the attributes of the one true religion were perfected when, in the fullness of time, The Word took flesh and established His universal Church

That is to say, religion has always only been one because that Bond with God was founded on the necessary and unchangeable relationship twixt God and man as established by Our Triune God

I know what I write and/or post appears to make you angry but the truth divides; always.

My motivation for writing and posting is that outside of the Catholic Church there is no salvation and I desire that even my objective enemies attain unto Salvation

184 posted on 04/11/2013 2:10:49 PM PDT by Vermont Crank (Invisible yet are signs of the force of Tradition that'll act upon our inertia into Indifferentism)
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To: Vermont Crank

you are misrepresenting the doctrines regarding an amnesty from oblivion.


192 posted on 04/11/2013 2:37:23 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: Vermont Crank
Dear Daniel. You do not seem to understand that there has always been only one religion and that one religion has God as its author, and whose Dogmas, Morals and Worship were slowly revealed over time until all of the attributes of the one true religion were perfected when, in the fullness of time, The Word took flesh and established His universal Church.

I do understand that RCs typically engage in argument by assertion, and your delusion premise that Rome is the perfect church is nothing more than that. Now answer the question i asked at the end of my last post .

My motivation for writing and posting is that outside of the Catholic Church there is no salvation and I desire that even my objective enemies attain unto Salvation

And my motivation for writing is because salvation is found by genuine contrite repentance and faith directly in the Lord Jesus to save by His sinless shed blood, which is not the same thing as what Rome fosters (except for a relative few who see thru the trappings). And i know, as i was manifestly born again as a RC, and remained as a weekly one for 6 years, seeking to serve God. Thus the Lord led me out.

Now you must be aware that RCs have different interpretations of what salvationn only thru the the Catholic Church means (formal member) so do you agree with the RC statements i proved, or the Catechism you posted form? What brand of RC are you (SSPX. Sedevacantist?)

Later

198 posted on 04/11/2013 3:17:28 PM PDT by daniel1212 (Come to the Lord Jesus as a contrite damned+destitute sinner, trust Him to save you, then live 4 Him)
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To: Vermont Crank
"My motivation for writing and posting is that outside of the Catholic Church there is no salvation and I desire that even my objective enemies attain unto Salvation"

Allow me to relate the story of the last days of my husband's grandfather. He was the best example of a Christian I've known. He was uncompromising when it came to the Word, but you would never see him beat anyone over the head with it. He was a gentle man, and everyone loved him.

A couple of Mormons came to his door once and asked if they could speak with him. He said certainly, if they would afford him the same amount of time, and he opened his door wide. He listened to their spiel, and when they were done, he took out his Bible and showed them where everything they had said was wrong. And he did it nicely. He was always looking for an opportunity to share Christ.

He died three years ago, and those last days in the hospital were a revelation. He called each of us to his bedside individually for a final conversation, and he told us firmly that there was no reason for us to be sad....he said that Jesus was showing him what was to come, and he had no words to describe it, nor did he believe it was appropriate for him to try. He was so ready to leave and join Christ in the heaven he had been so graciously allowed to glimpse, as he hovered between both worlds. There was no fear in him at all.

That hospital room had an atmosphere I still don't know how to describe. It was almost like being in church. The doctors and nurses felt it, too. One of the doctors was in awe...he told my mother-in-law he'd never experienced anything like it. Of course, it was the Holy Spirit.

So that dear man passed soon after and joined the Lord who had come to him and eased him into heaven. To this day, I'm convinced Jesus did it to comfort us, as well.

And to think....somehow Jesus managed to get him there, even though he wasn't Catholic.

203 posted on 04/11/2013 3:51:20 PM PDT by CatherineofAragon (Support Christian white males---the architects of the jewel known as Western Civilization)
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To: Vermont Crank
My motivation for writing and posting is that outside of the Catholic Church there is no salvation and I desire that even my objective enemies attain unto Salvation

Golly!



Acts Chapter 8:26-40
 

26 And the angel of the Lord spoke unto Philip, saying, “Arise and go toward the south unto the road that goeth down from Jerusalem into Gaza, which is desert.”

27 And he arose and went. And behold, a man of Ethiopia, a eunuch of great authority under Candace, queen of the Ethiopians, who had charge of all her treasure and had come to Jerusalem to worship,

28 was returning; and sitting in his chariot, he was reading Isaiah the prophet.

29 Then the Spirit said unto Philip, “Go near and join thyself to this chariot.”

30 And Philip ran thither to him, and heard him reading the prophet Isaiah, and said, “Understandest thou what thou readest?”

31 And he said, “How can I, unless some man should guide me?” And he besought Philip that he would come up and sit with him.

32 The place of the Scripture from which he read was this: “He was led as a sheep to the slaughter; and like a lamb before his shearer is dumb, so opened He not His mouth.

33 In His humiliation, His judgment was taken away. And who shall declare His generation? For His life is taken from the earth.”

34 And the eunuch answered Philip and said, “I pray thee, of whom speaketh the prophet this? Of himself, or of some other man?”

35 Then Philip opened his mouth and began at the same Scripture, and preached unto him Jesus.

36 And as they went on their way, they came unto a certain water; and the eunuch said, “See, here is water! What doth hinder me from being baptized?”

37 And Philip said, “If thou believest with all thine heart, thou mayest.” And he answered and said, “I believe that Jesus Christ is the Son of God.”

38 And he commanded the chariot to stand still, and they both went down into the water, both Philip and the eunuch, and he baptized him.

39 And when they had come up out of the water, the Spirit of the Lord caught away Philip. And the eunuch saw him no more, and went on his way rejoicing.

40 But Philip was found at Azotus, and passing through, he preached in all the cities until he came to Caesarea.

 

In a recently found scroll from a dig at Azotus; the long missing verse 41:  But Philip was wroth, for he realized he'd forgotten to make sure that the eunuch knew that he was now a Catholic.

 

 

 

 

 

217 posted on 04/11/2013 7:17:56 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Vermont Crank
My motivation for writing and posting is that outside of the Catholic Church there is no salvation and I desire that even my objective enemies attain unto Salvation

Ah - so you DON'T believe the Bible!

You are an idolator, FRiend. Your idol is the Roman Catholic church. You are likely unaware that there is a difference between small-c "catholic" (which means "universal"), and large-C "Catholic" (which usually means "Roman Catholic"), and that there have been missals in use within the united states that are missing crucial punctuation from their Nicene creed, where "one, catholic, and apostolic church" became "one Catholic and apostolic church" - which is in and of itself a heresy.

I will pray for you, that you come to fully understand the grace of God in his wisdom to make Christ himself the gateway to the heavenly throne, rather than vesting that power in an earthly crucible call a "church".

Lest you misunderstand, I do not speak of any specific religious organization, but rather all such organizations, as they are invariably led by men. Fallible, imperfect images of God himself.

Unless you care to directly contradict the scripture, that is.

238 posted on 04/11/2013 8:10:46 PM PDT by MortMan (Disarming the sheep only emboldens the wolves.)
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To: Vermont Crank
My motivation for writing and posting is that outside of the Catholic Church there is no salvation and I desire that even my objective enemies attain unto Salvation

Out of curiosity, since I do not regularly post to these threads, can you explain the thief on the cross, if this is true?

294 posted on 04/12/2013 9:05:00 AM PDT by Colonel_Flagg (Blather. Reince. Repeat.)
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