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The Newbie flamewar provocation is NOT THE WORK OF GOD. It is ZOT.
Doctrinal Catechism ^ | 19th century | R E V.   S T E P H E N    K E E N A N.

Posted on 04/11/2013 6:40:37 AM PDT by Vermont Crank

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To: ArrogantBustard
Having read numerous of your posts, I believe you to be honest and sincere in your efforts.

Lots of folks are...



221 posted on 04/11/2013 7:25:33 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: MortMan
And yet this article claims that because Luther wasn’t perfect, he could not have been inspired by God.

HMMMmmm...



Pope Stephen VI (896–897), who had his predecessor Pope Formosus exhumed, tried, de-fingered, briefly reburied, and thrown in the Tiber.[1]

Pope John XII (955–964), who gave land to a mistress, murdered several people, and was killed by a man who caught him in bed with his wife.

Pope Benedict IX (1032–1044, 1045, 1047–1048), who "sold" the Papacy

Pope Boniface VIII (1294–1303), who is lampooned in Dante's Divine Comedy

Pope Urban VI (1378–1389), who complained that he did not hear enough screaming when Cardinals who had conspired against him were tortured.[2]

Pope Alexander VI (1492–1503), a Borgia, who was guilty of nepotism and whose unattended corpse swelled until it could barely fit in a coffin.[3]

Pope Leo X (1513–1521), a spendthrift member of the Medici family who once spent 1/7 of his predecessors' reserves on a single ceremony[4]

Pope Clement VII (1523–1534), also a Medici, whose power-politicking with France, Spain, and Germany got Rome sacked.

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Bad_Popes

222 posted on 04/11/2013 7:26:41 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: editor-surveyor
Protestantism is the worship of Yeshua

That's debatable

instead of Ishtar using “Mary” as a proxy.

Never met anyone who does that.

223 posted on 04/11/2013 7:27:43 PM PDT by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilization is Aborting, Buggering, and Contracepting itself out of existence.)
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To: Elsie

Nice ... is that a picture of your particular congregation?


224 posted on 04/11/2013 7:30:12 PM PDT by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilization is Aborting, Buggering, and Contracepting itself out of existence.)
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To: ArrogantBustard
Protestantism is a collection of heresies...

You might be right.

I seem to have misplaced my list of them.

Could you post a link to them?

225 posted on 04/11/2013 7:31:06 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: don-o; roamer_1

Is there a creed anywhere in the scriptures?

No.

And to Yeshua, the scriptures consisted of Torah, and the prophets. That is all he ever stood by, and all we need today to demonstrate who and what Yeshua is.


226 posted on 04/11/2013 7:31:57 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: ArrogantBustard
Never met anyone who does that.

Of course not; for she is dead.

Laying in her grave like all of the other Christians who have died and are awaiting that trumpet sound to arise.

227 posted on 04/11/2013 7:33:42 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: jjotto; Vermont Crank
hehe .... retread

YES a definite RETREAD and/or this is their second open account. Almost makes me know who it is! Being deceptive right from the get go.

228 posted on 04/11/2013 7:39:16 PM PDT by presently no screen name
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To: Elsie

Thinking of something else ~ you’ll find i corrected myself later ~ wrong darned Smith ~


229 posted on 04/11/2013 7:49:08 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: Cicero
Nevertheless, I would guess that there are about fifty threads attacking the Catholic Church here in FR for every thread attacking the Reformation

That sir is absurd. There is far more Catholic posting attacking the Reformation than otherwise, unless started by Catholics. I have never seen you post on any of the multitudinous RF threads advertising and promoting Roman Catholicism ( search site:www.freerepublic.com pope for instance), and upholding it as the one true church, and in which are many RCs often contending for that and against anything that in anyways impugns upon that claim. One who advertise an entity which makes an extreme claim, expect challenges rather than expressing a victim mentality.

In contrast, relatively rare indeed are threads started by Reformation type posters attacking RC.

230 posted on 04/11/2013 7:50:51 PM PDT by daniel1212 (Come to the Lord Jesus as a contrite damned+destitute sinner, trust Him to save you, then live 4 Him)
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To: Vermont Crank

post 183 seems to have captured the very essence if idiot. Some enterprizing individual should try to package some of the excess and take it to market. If nothing else this proves that when the RCC speaks about unqualified minds running loose with the Scriptures they have your kind in mind.

Have a nice day.


231 posted on 04/11/2013 7:51:52 PM PDT by fatboy (This protestant will have no part in the ecumenical movement)
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To: Elsie
A regular laugh riot ~ it is sufficient to be baptised in the proper way under the proper conditions. my church signed a document attesting to this in reciprocity with the Pope ~ just one of the reasons we get a whole lot of the more serious divorced RCs in the churches on Sunday ~ and the perpetual novenas ~ they are allowed ~ no good reason to prohibit them.

Alas, many of them are Democrats, but if you think about it they really do need to seek God in every nook and cranny ~ poor creatures!

232 posted on 04/11/2013 7:53:13 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: editor-surveyor
And to Yeshua

Enlighten me - why that name? What is wrong with Jesus?

233 posted on 04/11/2013 7:55:12 PM PDT by don-o (He will not share His glory, and He will not be mocked! Blessed be the Name of the Lord forever!)
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To: Alex Murphy; boatbums; Vermont Crank; Mr Rogers; muawiyah; CatherineofAragon; MortMan; ...
is not titled "THE PROTESTANT PRETENDED REFORMATION IS NOT THE WORK OF GOD"

And note that the same STEPHEN KEENAN that the OP invokes also taught on page 112 of an earlier edition of this Catechism, the third edition of 1854, published by Marsh and Beattie of Edinburgh and Charles Dolman of London and Manchester,

Q: Must not Catholics believe the Pope in himself to be infallible?

A: This is a Protestant invention; it is no article of the Catholic faith; no decision of his can oblige, under pain of heresy, unless it be received and enforced by the teaching body; that is, by the bishops of the Church.

This catechism carries the enthusiastic approbation of four bishops. http://orthodoxinfo.com/inquirers/papaldogma.aspx

This was before V1 affirmed this "Protestant invention," which testifies against the pope being generally recognized as having the charism of individual infallibility and not being subject to councils.

234 posted on 04/11/2013 7:55:36 PM PDT by daniel1212 (Come to the Lord Jesus as a contrite damned+destitute sinner, trust Him to save you, then live 4 Him)
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To: Elsie

Are you planning to quote the whole book of Acts?


235 posted on 04/11/2013 7:57:05 PM PDT by don-o (He will not share His glory, and He will not be mocked! Blessed be the Name of the Lord forever!)
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To: Elsie
The Borgia family were Italians with Spanish antecedents. Those Spanish Borja families were themselves descendants of Bretons!

These guys started showing up in Italy just before the end of the Reconquista. They'd been providing heavy armed knights to Spanish princes for well over 500 years. Those guys would frequently succeed at overrunning islamic held land, which would result in a substantial profit and other benefits to the knight(s) responsible. They'd remit many of the profits to the folks back home and you can imagine how valuable that practice was to Brittany.

During the 1500s several conflicting pressures came to a head in Brittany. The rural nobles became both Protestants and fans of the idea of being incorporated into the Hapsburg domains (even though Filippe was supposed to be virulently anti-protestant).

At the same time the urban nobles stayed Catholic but were fans of Henry IV becoming King of France (paris is worth a mass).

The end result of those conflicts was the emigration (over time) of about 90% of all Bretons to some other place! Many went to Sweden where they were identified by the local goobers as "French noblemen"

Their brethren in Spain also emigrated to the Americas in large numbers ~ almost all those longer Spanish surnames are actually sentences in Cornish that tell us what job their ancestors had in medieval armies in the Reconquista.

Again, with the source of the nation's wealth cut off, many Bretons in Spain migrated to Italy. There are vast storehouses of ancient records attending to their rapacity as they began looting Italy. The Borgias were the least of it!

236 posted on 04/11/2013 8:04:18 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: daniel1212
I'm still trying to figure out why that Protestant pretended anything at all.

Has anyone realized that title can be read several different ways?

237 posted on 04/11/2013 8:06:31 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: Vermont Crank
My motivation for writing and posting is that outside of the Catholic Church there is no salvation and I desire that even my objective enemies attain unto Salvation

Ah - so you DON'T believe the Bible!

You are an idolator, FRiend. Your idol is the Roman Catholic church. You are likely unaware that there is a difference between small-c "catholic" (which means "universal"), and large-C "Catholic" (which usually means "Roman Catholic"), and that there have been missals in use within the united states that are missing crucial punctuation from their Nicene creed, where "one, catholic, and apostolic church" became "one Catholic and apostolic church" - which is in and of itself a heresy.

I will pray for you, that you come to fully understand the grace of God in his wisdom to make Christ himself the gateway to the heavenly throne, rather than vesting that power in an earthly crucible call a "church".

Lest you misunderstand, I do not speak of any specific religious organization, but rather all such organizations, as they are invariably led by men. Fallible, imperfect images of God himself.

Unless you care to directly contradict the scripture, that is.

238 posted on 04/11/2013 8:10:46 PM PDT by MortMan (Disarming the sheep only emboldens the wolves.)
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To: Vermont Crank
All we were doing in The Inquisitions was following the example of Moses - well, except for the killing of kids and saving the virgin women for our own selves :)

The above is flamebait, the only possible result is trouble.

Flamebait is rarely tolerated from oldtimers. It will not be tolerated from newbies.

This is your final warning.

239 posted on 04/11/2013 8:52:04 PM PDT by Religion Moderator
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To: Religion Moderator
This is your final warning.

You were right the first time.

240 posted on 04/11/2013 9:02:29 PM PDT by xone
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