Posted on 04/11/2013 6:40:37 AM PDT by Vermont Crank
IATZ. Related to a theme from today’s gospel thread, eh?
The new defense of wickedness....At Least We Ain’t As Bad As Luther.
Aaaaand he’s toast!
Looks like he’s still here.
His profile page is showing him still here, but the thread title’s been modified...or zottified, as the case may be.
Justify that. If the title is wrong the link to the source is valid. What has the OP done to merit being shot at?
Thank you.
“The Geneva Bible was the “Bible of the Protestant Reformation”, and the Bible of the Puritans and Pilgrims. It was the first Bible taken to America, brought over on the Mayflower. The Geneva Bible is the Bible upon which America was founded. It was the first Bible in English to add numbered verses to each chapter of scripture. Also known as the “Breeches Bible”, the Geneva Bible was also the first “Study Bible” with extensive commentary notes on the margins. *******Printed from 1560 until 1644,*******the Geneva Bible is the only Bible to ever surpass the 1611 King James Bible in popularity among the people of its day.”
It is true that Rome Published the D/R translation before the KJV of 1611. And you would be making a great point nanetteclaret if it were not for the fact that in English there were numerous translations including the Tyndale NT 1526, the Matthews 1537 and The famous Geneva of 1560. What is interesting to those who follow these sort of things is that the D/R was a translation into English from the Latin Vulgate (ie: a translation of a translation). Tyndale translated the NT into English from the greek text. So your line of reasoning only works in and among those like yourself who basically don't know what they are talking about and or place the actual Word of God at the bottom of their summer reading list.
Another tid-bit of trivia, to find the first comparable Latin to English translation we go to AD 1388, thats right, 200 years before the D/R to Wyclif who was not treated very nice by the church you love so much.
Of course this has nothing to do with Luther and his translation of the NT from koine greek to the German language. The claim to fame of Luthers translation (1522) is that it was the first translation in the German language to make it's way into the hands of the people. Which brings me to making the point that it matter not if the Bible is available to the people actually doing the believing if those who profess to believe do not actually take the time to study the Word. St. Paul tells us (believers) to do just that (2 Timothy 2:15) but don't let the details of the NT get in the way of your good time bashing those who love the Word of God.
I would be interested in knowing of a corresponding probition among the Jews anywhere from the time of Moses to the present, where the Hebrew Scriptures were on their list of forbidden books. Help me out here.
here it’s still a question of civil registration ~ frankly, as far as i’m concerned, some homosexual wants to waltz into your church to get married and you don’t like it there are ways to dispose of them.
here it’s still a question of civil registration ~ frankly, as far as i’m concerned, some homosexual wants to waltz into your church to get married and you don’t like it there are ways to dispose of them. (SEE: Queen Mary ~ in that regard she had some interesting ideas eh! ~ otherwise she was just an old pschopathic killer of which we’ve all been oversubscribed for thousands of years)
The pilgrims and puritans were rather late comers ~
Thanks for this information on the publication history of the Bible before Luther. I expect to refer to this from time to time!
I’m coming to this thread very late, but I don’t see any reason to zot the poster.
It’s discouraging to me that the religion forum has so many pretty repetitive fights between Protestants and Catholics, when it would be better if conservative Protestants and Catholics could get together and fight the real enemies who are destroying our country, and agree to disagree among themselves.
I’m not an admirer of Luther, whose works I have studied in some detail, but I’m not sure that there’s much point in attacking him in FR. I’ll just say now that I think there were serious problems in the Church leadership in Luther’s time, but that splitting the Church into fragments and provoking civil wars throughout Europe for the next couple of hundred years—even getting some Christians joining with the Mohammedans to fight against their former brethren—was not a very helpful solution to those problems. The papacy was reformed by the end of the sixteenth century, but the religious divisions Luther provoked have undermined Christian civilization ever since.
Nevertheless, I would guess that there are about fifty threads attacking the Catholic Church here in FR for every thread attacking the Reformation. Why is this thread any worse than most of those others, aside from the fact that the poster seems to be a recent Freeper? What he says about Luther is no worse, IMHO, than what certain other Freepers say daily about the Catholic Church and the Pope. And some of them seem to have no other purpose for being here. Well, that’s their right, I guess. So, why not his?
Well it sure as heck was going on in Luther’s day, and his Thesis was, in part, a response to it.
And it took the Roman Church’s Counter-Reformation to put an end to it. And what was in response to, I wonder?
I know history a bit better than most, and the Church of Rome has a LOT it needs to answer for before it starts criticizing Protestants.
I am a Christian, saved by faith in Jesus Christ. I don’t belong to a “religion”. I belong to Christ.
Catholics belong to their religion. That’s fine. Their fierce defense of this “religion” and their “worship” of Mary, is almost cultish. (Not an insult, just an observation in the English language).
The title, it says ZOT!
The moderator he/she/it even posted a gif of machine gun kitty.
Yet you are still here.
Pan_Yan confused. Maybe I’d understand if I was Catholic. Baptists don’t get a purgatory.
Dear Lady Heron. The First Inquisitor was Moses and in two days he killed more persons (women and children included) than the the various Roman Catholic Church Inquisitions did in three centuries
Well, I am certainly not one who posted an anti-Catholic piece and I certainly do not think this catechetical endeavor is a rant
Oh well, I will have to see what happens when I get back. I have to go and run some errands.
I guess that what I said was my purpose in posting this is scarce believable to those who find this post nettlesome but as to how it is they know better than me what my motivation/intent is is beyond me
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