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1 posted on 04/08/2013 9:22:31 AM PDT by DouglasKC
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To: DouglasKC

Isaiah 5:20
King James Bible (Cambridge Ed.)

“Woe unto them that call evil good, and good evil; that put darkness for light, and light for darkness; that put bitter for sweet, and sweet for bitter!”
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We today do call ‘evil good and good evil’.

God forgive us, in Jesus name,amen.

WAKE Up all of us that seem to be hypnotized, and many are in such a state and do not realize it.


2 posted on 04/08/2013 9:46:32 AM PDT by geologist ("If you love me, keep my commands" .... John 14 :15)
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To: DouglasKC

There is no such word as church or Church, which is why all of the believing community is scattered around. The word Jesus used (which was morphed by Rome) is “gathering” or “assembly”. It is a common word with no special emphasis. Even the riot at Ephesus was an ecclasia. You will now hear the clammor of the RCC claiming their pre-eminence in 3,2,1...


3 posted on 04/08/2013 9:49:00 AM PDT by Dutchboy88
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To: DouglasKC

No Jesus told us to not test everything in light of scripture but to trust in the traditions of men, blindly accept the word of self appointed prophets and oracles of biblical interpretation and through their expertise we can get the filtered albeit correct version of God’s plan for us. Jesus also told us his Mother was to be exalted prayed to,was sinless and a mediator between God then Jesus , we are unworthy to come straight to God. Also Jesus also preached to thief on the cross that he would not be going to heaven that day “techincally”.. he was to do a stint in a netherworld between the living and the dead. Jesus also preached that no meat on Fridays buys extra favor, that prayers with beads are super holy and that His ...whoops I mean Peter’s church... was to proclaim some people “Super Christians”...aka Saints and we are to pray to them when we are boarding a boat or when we lose our car keys. Jesus also preached some women are to be married to him and live a life of sullen pharisaical piety, spend their lives forcing children to kneel in rice in Chapel. Jesus did not come to fulfill the law but establish a brand new set of laws that worked better than that Old testament stuff, now we have the right people in power including a guy in a pointy hat to tell us God’s Law v2, is now the correct mixture of high priest hypocricy , theft, depravity and legalism.


4 posted on 04/08/2013 9:57:49 AM PDT by pburgh01
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To: DouglasKC

DouglasKC, my understanding of the United Church of God forbids voting and proselytism. So just what are you doing for God by posting here?


5 posted on 04/08/2013 10:02:21 AM PDT by timeflies
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To: DouglasKC
For those FReepers unfamiliar with the "United Church of God" they should know that it was invented in 1986 and is a branch of Herbert Armstrong's personal fiefdom - the group that was known as the "Worldwide Church of God."

Some of the more striking doctrines of the UCG are (1) rejection of the Trinity, (2) adoption of certain dietary laws and restrictions of the Hebrew Scriptures, (3) Saturday observance and (4) the particularly bizarre concept known as "British Israelitism."

The UCG is, I believe, currently split into two factions - the Luker group and the Kilough group.

8 posted on 04/08/2013 10:16:57 AM PDT by wideawake
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To: DouglasKC

There is a remnant, within His church, like Gideon. The institution and intellitualism of itm has followed the 1st Covenent into false traditions, commandments of men.

Rev 12:17 (NASB) Then the dragon was angry with the woman, and went off to make war on the rest of her children, those who
* keep the commandments of God and
* hold the testimony of Jesus.


13 posted on 04/08/2013 10:42:44 AM PDT by veracious
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To: DouglasKC; All
Consider and listen to what Jesus Christ said by revelation (His Words, not men's imagination) to the great Apostle Paul to the Church, the Body of Christ:

I Timothy 1:16: Howbeit for this cause I obtained mercy, that in me first Jesus Christ might shew forth all longsuffering, for a pattern to them which should hereafter believe on him to life everlasting.

And at Damascus:

Acts 26:15: And I said, Who art thou, Lord? And he said, I am Jesus whom thou persecutest.

Acts 26:16: But rise, and stand upon thy feet: for I have appeared unto thee for this purpose, to make thee a minister and a witness both of these things which thou hast seen, and of those things in the which I will appear unto thee;

Acts 26:17: Delivering thee from the people, and from the Gentiles, unto whom now I send thee

Christ Jesus HIMSELF NOW sends Paul to the Gentiles - unto whom now I [Christ Jesus] send thee [Paul]

Therefore, be forewarned as Christ Jesus (the Word) gave Paul these Words of warning:

Romans 2:16: In the day when God shall judge the secrets of men by Jesus Christ according to my gospel.

19 posted on 04/08/2013 10:51:34 AM PDT by AmbassadorForChrist
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The Church referred to in Matthew 16:13-19 cannot be seen on earth today any place. It will be observable in the Kingdom setting of the reign of Christ when He returns to this earth to rule from David's Throne. It is the assembly of Israel saved, believing Israel, with believing Gentiles, in the Davidic Kingdom.

Israel could have had that Kingdom setting beginning in the days of the Apostles, and Peter had the keys to administer entrance into it, but the leadership of Israel, both in the land of Israel, and the Dispersion (Acts ch. 28) rejected it . . .

. . . thus it is in abeyance until the return of Christ.

31 posted on 04/08/2013 1:57:42 PM PDT by John Leland 1789
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To: DouglasKC
Seriously, there is no "one true chrstian church," and as long as people keep looking for it, whether ancient and historical or modern and reconstructed, they will only flounder.

Remove the "new testament" from your bibles and suddenly everything will become crystal clear.

33 posted on 04/08/2013 3:03:51 PM PDT by Zionist Conspirator (Ki-hagoy vehamamlakhah 'asher lo'-ya`avdukh yove'du; vehagoyim charov yecheravu!)
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To: DouglasKC

Are those who believe in Jesus Christ as in the Holy Trinity, trinitarians, part of the church your article describes?


41 posted on 04/08/2013 4:46:01 PM PDT by D-fendr (Deus non alligatur sacramentis sed nos alligamur.)
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Jesus Christ said that He would build ‘His Church’ and that it would never die out..... Is today's Christianity, the Church Jesus promised that He would build?

Yes of course...for the church is made up of Christian believers from all walks of life, from various cultures, and peculiarities. It was so when He walked among us, and after that.

That's not to say there isn't error happening....the church doesn't do a very good job of identifying the “wolfs” Jesus expressly said would be among us.

But there are no perfect church denominations or otherwise apart from the centrality of Jesus Christ being foremost among it's believers.

43 posted on 04/08/2013 4:55:08 PM PDT by caww
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To: DouglasKC

bttt


58 posted on 04/08/2013 5:53:29 PM PDT by timestax (AMERICAN MEDIA= DOMESTIC ENEMY)
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To: DouglasKC
good luck with that interpretation!!

But He guaranteed no such thing. Instead, He warned His disciples that "false christs and false prophets will rise and show signs and wonders to deceive, if possible, even the elect" (Mark 13:22, emphasis added throughout). I think that happened along about the 1600's

65 posted on 04/08/2013 8:12:38 PM PDT by terycarl
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To: DouglasKC
**The Church Jesus Built** The real answer:

What is the History of Your Church?

 

Church Year Established Founder Where Established
 
Catholic 33 Jesus Christ Jerusalem
 
Orthodox 1054 Schismatic Catholic
Bishops
Constantinople
 
Lutheran 1517 Martin Luther Germany
 
Anabaptist 1521 Nicholas Storch &
Thomas Munzer
Germany
 
Anglican 1534 Henry VIII England
 
Mennonites 1536 Menno Simons Switzerland
 
Calvinist 1555 John Calvin Switzerland
 
Presbyterian 1560 John Knox Scotland
 
Congregational 1582 Robert Brown Holland
 
Baptist 1609 John Smyth Amsterdam
 
Dutch Reformed 1628 Michaelis Jones New York
 
Congregationalist 1648 Pilgrims and Puritans Massachusetts
 
Quakers 1649 George Fox England
 
Amish 1693 Jacob Amman France
 
Freemasons 1717 Masons from four lodges London
 
Methodist 1739 John & Charles
Wesley
England
 
Unitarian 1774 Theophilus Lindey London
 
Methodist Episcopal 1784 60 Preachers Baltimore, MD
 
Episcopalian 1789 Samuel Seabury American Colonies
 
United Brethren 1800 Philip Otterbein &
Martin Boehn
Maryland
 
Disciples of Christ 1827 Thomas & Alexander
Campbell
Kentucky
 
Mormon 1830 Joseph Smith New York
 
Methodist Protestant 1830 Methodist United States
 
Church of Christ 1836 Warren Stone &
Alexander Campbell
Kentucky
 
Seventh Day Adventist 1844 Ellen White Washington, NH
 
Christadelphian (Brethren
of Christ
1844 John Thomas Richmond, VA
 
Salvation Army 1865 William Booth London
 
Holiness 1867 Methodist United States
 
Jehovah's Witnesses 1874 Charles Taze Russell Pennsylvania
 
Christian Science 1879 Mary Baker Eddy Boston
 
Church of God in Christ 1895 Various churches of God Arkansas
 
Church of Nazarene c. 1850-1900 Various religious bodies Pilot Point, TX
 
Pentecstal 1901 Charles F. Parkham Topeka, KS
 
Aglipayan 1902 Gregorio Aglipay Philippines
 
Assemblies of God 1914 Pentecostalism Hot Springs, AZ
 
Iglesia ni Christo 1914 Felix Manalo Philippines
 
Four-square Gospel 1917 Aimee Semple
McPherson
Los Angeles, CA
 
United Church of Christ 1961 Reformed and
Congregationalist
Philadelphia, PA
 
Calvary Chapel 1965 Chuck Smith Costa Mesa, CA
 
United Methodist 1968 Methodist and United
Brethren
Dallas, TX
 
Born-again c. 1970s Various religious bodies United States
 
Harvest Christian 1972 Greg Laurie Riverside, CA
 
Saddleback 1982 Rick Warren California
 
Non-denominational c. 1990s various United States

66 posted on 04/08/2013 8:26:42 PM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: DouglasKC

A church (ekklesia = “group of people”) is not an organizational chart.....it’s just a group of people. Who often disagree.


119 posted on 04/10/2013 12:19:32 PM PDT by cookcounty
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To: DouglasKC

Is this one of my church is an honour roll student or can beat up your church sort of threads?

Do you chauvinists really think God or the Christ care what church you attend short of apostate?


169 posted on 04/10/2013 11:04:27 PM PDT by wardaddy (wanna know how my kin felt during Reconstruction in Mississippi, you fixin to find out firsthand)
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