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To: CynicalBear

‘To say that I mean what Catholics mean when they say the Nicene Creed means something totally different then what scripture teaches.’

Ahh, I see. So when the Catholics recite:

We believe in one God,
the Father, the Almighty,
maker of heaven and earth,
of all that is, seen and unseen.
We believe in one Lord, Jesus Christ,
the only Son of God,
eternally begotten of the Father,
God from God, Light from Light,
true God from true God,
begotten, not made,
of one Being with the Father.
Through him all things were made.
For us and for our salvation
he came down from heaven:
by the power of the Holy Spirit
he became incarnate from the Virgin Mary,
and was made man.
For our sake he was crucified under Pontius Pilate;
he suffered death and was buried.
On the third day he rose again
in accordance with the Scriptures;
he ascended into heaven
and is seated at the right hand of the Father.
He will come again in glory to judge the living and the dead,
and his kingdom will have no end.

We believe in the Holy Spirit, the Lord, the giver of life,
who proceeds from the Father and the Son.
With the Father and the Son he is worshiped and glorified.
He has spoken through the Prophets.
We believe in one holy Catholic and apostolic Church.
We acknowledge one baptism for the forgiveness of sins.
We look for the resurrection of the dead,
and the life of the world to come. Amen.

What parts are contrary to Scripture?


617 posted on 04/10/2013 8:08:04 AM PDT by JCBreckenridge (Texas is a state of mind - Steinbeck)
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To: JCBreckenridge
"What parts are contrary to Scripture?"

The Creeds were the profession of faith learned and recited at the Baptism of early Christian converts. They preceded the Bible and largely formed the litmus for the determination of Canonicity. The cannot be contrary to Scripture.

Peace be with you

619 posted on 04/10/2013 8:56:43 AM PDT by Natural Law (Jesus did not leave us a Bible, He left us a Church.)
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To: JCBreckenridge
According to the RCC “virgin Mary” means that Mary was ever virgin and had no other children or even sexual relations with her husband. She was also ever without sin as Jesus was. When Catholics say “We believe in one holy Catholic and apostolic Church.” they Capitalize catholic just as you did in your post meaning the RCC rather than just the universal body of Christ.

The council at Nicea was obviously Catholic and the intent and meaning was included. Catholics love to get someone to say they believe in those words because they think it would include the same meaning as the Catholics have. Satan used those word tricks with Eve. We’ve been warned about those deceitful practices. Don’t try to use them on me.

Mary did have other children and was a sinful albeit obedient person as all other humans are and have been since Adam and Eve. The universal body of Christ (the universal church) does not mean the RCC.

635 posted on 04/10/2013 3:04:00 PM PDT by CynicalBear (For I decided to know nothing among you except Jesus Christ and him crucified. 1 Corinthians 2:2)
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