Nice to know there are Catholics in "His church", but I've never met any "born again" Catholics since that's a wholly protestant doctrine and is only mentioned once in the Bible (John 3:3-5). Catholics are Baptized at birth unless they convert from another denomination or religion. Having a "personal relationship with Jesus" is certainly a good thing, but it is not a requirement for baptism in the Catholic Church. Your definition of "the church" and "Christians" seems to be limited to fundamentalist evangelical protestants who "have a personal relationship with Jesus", unfortunately. They actually represent a VERY small segment of Christianity worldwide (maybe 10% of Christians at best, considering there are 1.2 billion Catholics, about 300 million Orthdox, and millions of other protestants worldwide who accept Jesus as their savior and have not been "Born Again" but were baptized at birth)
>> The church is made up of all born again saved Christians who have that personal relationship with Jesus as he promised in the NT. There are Catholics in His church, the ones that are born again and fit the other criteria noted above. <<Actually it is mentioned TWICE in John 3Nice to know there are Catholics in "His church", but I've never met any "born again" Catholics since that's a wholly protestant doctrine and is only mentioned once in the Bible (John 3:3-5)
In both cases, it is said by JESUS CHRIST Himself!1There was a man of the Pharisees, named Nicodemus, a ruler of the Jews:
2 The same came to Jesus by night, and said unto him, Rabbi, we know that thou art a teacher come from God: for no man can do these miracles that thou doest, except God be with him.
3 Jesus answered and said unto him, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born again, he cannot see the kingdom of God.
4 Nicodemus saith unto him, How can a man be born when he is old? can he enter the second time into his mother's womb, and be born?
5 Jesus answered, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born of water and of the Spirit, he cannot enter into the kingdom of God.
6 That which is born of the flesh is flesh; and that which is born of the Spirit is spirit.
7 Marvel not that I said unto thee, Ye must be born again.
Catholic tradition may disagree and Catholic Bibles may leave the second one out.
I've never met any "born again" Catholics since that's a wholly protestant doctrine
So you are saying that Jesus is a Protestant?
And here it is a third time, from Peter no less:
1 Peter 1Christians believe that the scriptures are God breathed/inspired and accept them as Gospel truth.22 Seeing ye have purified your souls in obeying the truth through the Spirit unto unfeigned love of the brethren, see that ye love one another with a pure heart fervently: 23 Being born again, not of corruptible seed, but of incorruptible, by the word of God, which liveth and abideth for ever.
Having a "personal relationship with Jesus" is certainly a good thing, but it is not a requirement for baptism in the Catholic Church.
Well, that's none of my concern, you may do as your denomination dictates.
For born again Christians, it's one of the perks.
That personal relationship is pretty important to Christians and we are thankful to God that we may experience it.20“In that day you will know that I am in My Father, and you in Me, and I in you--John 14:19-20
Your definition of "the church" and "Christians" seems to be limited to fundamentalist evangelical protestants who "have a personal relationship with Jesus"I have not much knowledge of "fundamentalist evangelical protestants" but if they have a personal relationship with Jesus they are alright in my book.
My definition of the church is that it is comprised of all born again saved Christians who have a personal relationship with Jesus. You may see my definition of "Christian" in that last sentence if you look carefully. (Anyone that agrees with that agrees with the Bible and God bless them for that! Even if they are some of those dreaded Protestants!)
Because that is what being saved for all eternity by Jesus through God and the Holy Spirit is all about.
They actually represent a VERY small segment of Christianity worldwide (maybe 10% of Christians at best, considering there are 1.2 billion Catholics, about 300 million Orthdox (sic), and millions of other protestants worldwide who accept Jesus as their savior and have not been "Born Again" but were baptized at birth)How one can be a Christian without being born from above (born again) is a strange concept to me and other Christians.
So Protestants are now baptizing at birth like Catholics do? That is not Biblical, I am surprised that they do that.
It seems like you are saying you believe that if someone is baptized at birth, that they are saved? Do you have a Biblical reference to that?