“2/3 of the Holy Scriptures were already written”
Exactly. The Bible wasn’t complete. And so they looked to the Church for guidance.
“They teach the Scriptures.”
They, and many if not most of the priests in the Catholic Church, usually don’t teach that birth control is wrong. But it is condemned as the sin of Onan in the Old Testament, and it is the “magic potions” referred to in Revelation 9:21.
“They don’t, however teach what they invent.”
They do in my opinion. They have pulled out the scandal of widespread divorce among Christians as scriptural, when it isn’t there. They say Jesus permitted divorce in cases of “adultery”. This is incorrect. Jesus was talking about marriages which were not valid in the first place because they were taking place among close blood relatives and therefore weren’t permissible. Jesus was using a very narrow term which has been blown up into divorce for almost any reason. And what about the Christians who say divorce is permissible when there has been no adultery? Isn’t this what basically happened with Amy Grant? Many walked away from Jesus because they clearly understood that he wasn’t talking spiritually when He gave the teaching on the Holy Eucharist, but was talking literally. Why do so many fundamentalists suddenly say Jesus was only talking spiritually when that doesn’t make common sense? Why would so many disciples walk away if he were only talking spiritually? The only 6:66 in the New Testament is John 6:66 where many of the disciples walked away because of the teaching of Jesus on the Holy Eucharist. Will many Christians walk away from Jesus during the time of 666, the time of Anti-Christ, because they don’t find the strength to persevere without the Holy Eucharist? This teaching was assented to by virtually all Christians until after Martin Luther. Martin Luther himself accepted it. The Holy Eucharist as only symbolic is a very recent invention within Christendom. The Rapture was largely unheard of among Christians until a Scottish minister made it popular a couple of centuries ago. I admit some of the Church fathers disagreed on this teaching, but their influence on the teaching wasn’t widespread. Rome has always taught against it.
I've heard somwething about that.
Just what IS that sin to which you refer?
“Exactly. The Bible wasn’t complete. And so they looked to the Church for guidance.”
The Scriptures were 2/3 complete before the Church began. There was never a time that believers did not have the Holy Scriptures. I’m not sure why that is so difficult for you to admit. But your call.
“They, and many if not most of the priests in the Catholic Church, usually don’t teach that birth control is wrong. But it is condemned as the sin of Onan in the Old Testament, and it is the “magic potions” referred to in Revelation 9:21.”
The sin of Onan was not the use of birth control. It was that he refused to raise up children with his brother’s widowed wife - as he was commanded to do. If anyone does not teach the truth, they are in sin.
“They don’t, however teach what they invent.”
A Teacher, given by the Holy Spirit to the Church teaches from the Holy Scriptures.
You also include a rant that covers so many things that are outside the scope of this thread topic, that I will set them aside - despite a great selection of topics to discuss!
My single and only point that began our conversation was that Christians ALWAYS had Holy Scripture available and taught.
Annulment = Catholic church sanctioned divorce.
Nuff said.
The RCC is in no position to lecture ANYONE about divorce rates with the finessing of Scripture they do to justify it.
What *magic potions*? It's not mentioned in Revelation 9:21. And how do you know that it refers to birth control? What Scripture teaches that?
Revelation 9:20-21 The rest of mankind, who were not killed by these plagues, did not repent of the works of their hands nor give up worshiping demons and idols of gold and silver and bronze and stone and wood, which cannot see or hear or walk, 21 nor did they repent of their murders or their sorceries or their sexual immorality or their thefts.