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To: imardmd1
What's given and protected by the Holy Spirit is hardly flawed. What is flawed are the various heresies that came up and died out, like Arianism, Gnosticism, unitarianism and other that have arisen and died out after 3-4 centuries.

The Church has survived only due to God's grace

837 posted on 01/10/2013 7:02:28 AM PST by Cronos (**Marriage is about commitment, cohabitation is about convenience.**)
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To: Cronos
What's given and protected by the Holy Spirit is hardly flawed.

That is true, and is why the understanding of what the Holy Spirit says by His method of transmission, utilizing the literal/historical/grammatical/cultural hermeneutic, reveals the flaws listed in the initial post.

And that is why the churches loyal to the Real Christ have existed apart from catholicity since the beginning.

Don't expect more wrangling with your apparent intentions.

847 posted on 01/10/2013 9:19:56 AM PST by imardmd1 (Let the redeemed of The LORD say so, whom He hath redeemed from the hand of the enemy. (Ps. 107:2))
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To: Cronos
What is flawed are the various heresies that came up and died out, like Arianism, Gnosticism, unitarianism and other that have arisen and died out after 3-4 centuries.

Of course, as you know, the old heresies have been resurrected again with a new spin to them such as montanism heresies adopted by pentecostalism and others

880 posted on 01/10/2013 1:27:53 PM PST by stfassisi ((The greatest gift God gives us is that of overcoming self"-St Francis Assisi)))
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