[terycarl]

You can't say "I'm born again" and then lead whatever kind of lifestyle that you choose. Who said that?? Give me the link to one post here on FR where anyone has ever said that or made that claim. That is nothing more than a strawman that Catholics keep erecting and beating up on about non-Catholics.

\there are people on this and other threads who insist that you are automatically saved if you are born again....you are not. The only ones who seem to think that anyone believes it are the Catholics

[metmom]

there are people on this and other threads who insist that you are automatically saved if you are born again....you are not.

Well, if you are born spiritually, which is what being born again is, you have spiritual life, so yeah, you ARE saved. Jesus taught as much in John 3 where He tells us we must be born again.

It we're not saved when we're born again, what's the point of he second birth? To go to hell anyway?

[Elsie]

\there are people on this and other threads who insist that you are automatically saved if you are born again....you are not.

9 “How can this be?” Nicodemus asked.

10 “You are Israel’s teacher,” said Jesus, “and do you not understand these things? 11 Very truly I tell you, we speak of what we know, and we testify to what we have seen, but still you people do not accept our testimony. 12 I have spoken to you of earthly things and you do not believe; how then will you believe if I speak of heavenly things? 13 No one has ever gone into heaven except the one who came from heaven—the Son of Man. 14 Just as Moses lifted up the snake in the wilderness, so the Son of Man must be lifted up, 15 that everyone who believes may have eternal life in him.”