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To: Cronos

So much more RCC drivel being trotted out. Trying to carry over the Old Testament meaning of priest to the New Testament church. That doesn’t happen in God’s word. Trying to impose the word priest on the word presbutero (elder) contradicting God’s word and doesn’t work with those of us who don’t rely on the RCC but on scripture and God’s word itself. Catholics need to understand that the veil has been torn and what that means. Until they do the RCC will always be able to bamboozle them.


420 posted on 01/08/2013 9:37:04 AM PST by CynicalBear
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To: CynicalBear
it's drivel if you can't argue with facts, eh?

Cynical bear: Trying to carry over the Old Testament meaning of priest

The Bible: Exodus 19:6 and ye shall be unto me a kingdom of priests, and a holy nation. These are the words which thou shalt speak unto the children of Israel.

and 1 Peter 2:9 But you are a chosen people, a royal priesthood, a holy nation, a people belonging to God

Sorry, the Bible contradicts what you are saying

423 posted on 01/08/2013 9:43:29 AM PST by Cronos (**Marriage is about commitment, cohabitation is about convenience.**)
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To: CynicalBear
it's drivel if you can't argue with facts, eh?

Cynical bear: Trying to carry over the Old Testament meaning of priest

The Bible: Exodus 19:6 and ye shall be unto me a kingdom of priests, and a holy nation. These are the words which thou shalt speak unto the children of Israel.

and 1 Peter 2:9 But you are a chosen people, a royal priesthood, a holy nation, a people belonging to God

Sorry, the Bible contradicts what you are saying

just as with the ancient Israelites, we are all a "nation of priests" and just as the ancient Israelites had ministerial priests set aside (Levites), so too do we have in the Church

The same structure -- with the difference that the High Priest is eternal Jesus Christ who is present at each Eucharist, each Mass

the Israelites abdicated their role as a “nation of priests” with their little foray into gold-calf making. -- sorry, that doesn't hold as we read in Exodus 16 how Aaron and Moses preach to the Israelites

Even in Exodus 19 with the pronouncement of you[a] will be for me a kingdom of priests and a holy nation.’ -- these come from God through Moses and in Exodus 19:22 you read And let the priests also, which come near to the Lord, sanctify themselves, lest the Lord break forth upon them.

This was before Moses went up into Mt. Sinai

during the Eucharist, Christ IS present as the High Priest

Christ is the High Priest and we are all His priestly nation -- whether lay priests or ministerial priests

The High Priest, Jesus Christ is the High Priest and the one-time Sacrifice -- note, this is a participation in the One-Time sacrifice

So, like all of us in orthodoxy, i'd rather follow Christ's teaching than yours

425 posted on 01/08/2013 9:45:05 AM PST by Cronos (**Marriage is about commitment, cohabitation is about convenience.**)
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