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To: Rashputin
The Douay-Rheims is from the Latin and Greek to ensure it is as close to the Septuagint as possible.

Interesting.

But it does make me wonder why Rome would not rather be CLOSER to the ORIGINAL languages of Hebrew and Aramaic?

341 posted on 01/07/2013 7:59:54 PM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Elsie
Interesting. But it does make me wonder why Rome would not rather be CLOSER to the ORIGINAL languages of Hebrew and Aramaic

Interesting

but it does make me wonder why you don't think that the church which originally translated the bible from whatever source didn't do it right in this case?????

346 posted on 01/07/2013 8:11:34 PM PST by terycarl
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To: Elsie
The only thing "interesting" is that anyone who claims to be Christian doesn't know enough of the history of how we got to Bible to know that after hundreds of years of Roman persecution and destruction of copies of the NT Scriptures little other than Greek translations still existed.

After Romans destroying Scripture wherever it was found for several hundred years, few if any original language works survived. What did survive that wasn't a Greek translation varied from one fragmentary copy to the next far more than the surviving Greek translations did.

By the time Christianity was legal and not being constantly persecuted existing portions in every language were studied as were the widely distributed Greek translations with every existing sort of copy being compared to make the best possible Latin translation.

I know it's tough for the crowd who like to post pictures of themselves throwing feces to understand, but when the originals didn't exist, no one could use originals that didn't exist.

Of course, anyone who even read a children's book of how we got the Bible would know this so it must be tangent time to avoid the main point which is that the Douay-Rheims translation of the Bible correctly translates the word "overseers" as "prelates".

Until Martin Luther threw out portions of the Old Testament and wanted to throw out Hebrews (which would have sidestepped this and other issues for him), James (which contains direct contradictions of Luther's doctrines), Jude (which warns against Luther's doctrines), and Revelation (which contains epistles from Christ Himself), everyone knew and accepted that perlates were leaders in the church who had been properly ordained by someone with a direct connection back to Christ through ordination traced directly back to Christ just like a legal chain of evidence can trace something back to the point of origin.

King James saw the obvious benefits of retaining Luther's new definition of "overseer" as something other than the narrow meaning it had always had since Christianity began. Telling the peasants they had to obey the king and nobility as they would obey Christ Himself was quite useful and being useful that's what it was altered to mean.

The fact is, though, overseers are those who have a direct ordination connection all the way back to Jesus Christ Himself who established the One, Holy, Catholic and Apostolic Church to provide ordained shepherds to guide and direct His sheep to the Truth and keep them from going astray.

Those who cannot accept the Latin and the Douay-Rheims can, naturally, continue to preach their belief that, at the moment, it's King Barry who they must obey as being responsible for their souls. That makes it a lot easier for them to be guilt free while they go along to get along with his mandate that everyone help pay to further his eugenics based infanticide machine.

The only other alternative to the "King Barry is in charge of my soul" pretense is either the verse means "obey your Self", or that the verse means what the Catholic Church teaches it means and has taught it means for two thousand years.

Redefinition of terms is a favorite tactic of the fascist left that wants to destroy Christianity in this country so it's always interesting to see who else relies heavily on that tactic.

Likewise, it's interesting to see people use the same sort of diversion tactics with absurd questions like, "why didn't they use originals that didn't exist?".

It's little wonder the "obey yourself" lie suits the anti-Catholic boiler room crew, though. They're the sort of folks who claim claim murdering your children is, "Christian Liberty" and so churches shouldn't bother denouncing the murder of infants with abortificiant contraceptives.

422 posted on 01/08/2013 9:42:38 AM PST by Rashputin (Jesus Christ doesn't evacuate His troops, He leads them to victory.)
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