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To: NYer; Elsie

>> “Peter’s preeminent position among the apostles...” <<

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The favored apostle was John, “the disciple that the Lord Loved”

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Yeshua humorously called Peter “hard pebble,” a name that he had been called all of his life because it was the nature of his personality.

YHVH was called the Rock in Exodus 33:22, and again in Deuteronomy 32, several times, and again in Samuel 2:2, and again in Samuel 22 several times, and in Samuel 23:3 is called “the Rock of Israel, and in Psalm 18 several times, and Psalm 28, 31, and 42, and then Psalm 62,71,and 78, and then Psalm 89, 92, 94, and 95, and then in Isaiah 8 Yeshua is called a stone of stumbling, and the Rock of offense, and in Isaiah 17, the Rock of thy strength, and Isaiah 51, the Rock whence ye are hewen, then in Romans 9 he is again the Rock of offense, and in 1Corinthians 10:4 the Rock is identified as Christ, and in 1Peter the rock of offense again.

We know who the Rock is, and it sure is not Peter.


300 posted on 01/07/2013 5:00:16 PM PST by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: editor-surveyor

Well, John was jealous of Peter, but given that he is always Peter, or Simon Peter, and that he is the leading figure among the twelve, you have to go deep into semantics to reject the importance of Peter.


303 posted on 01/07/2013 5:07:00 PM PST by RobbyS (Christus rex.)
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To: editor-surveyor; NYer
editor; Yeshua humorously called Peter “hard pebble,” a name that he had been called all of his life because it was the nature of his personality.

"all of his life" -- really, you know that hidden knowledge that the rest of humanity didn't know? Where did you find the evidence that he was called that "all of his life"?

410 posted on 01/08/2013 9:11:25 AM PST by Cronos (**Marriage is about commitment, cohabitation is about convenience.**)
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To: editor-surveyor; NYer; RobbyS
editor; Yeshua humorously called Peter “hard pebble,” a name that he had been called all of his life because it was the nature of his personality.

"all of his life" -- really, you know that hidden knowledge that the rest of humanity didn't know? Where did you find the evidence that he was called that "all of his life"?

and, "hard pebble" -- where do you keep coming up with so many errors? over and over again

Petros in Koine Greek (which is the greek of the time of Christ and the greek of the New Testament) was a synonym of Petra

Only in ancient (500 BC + ) Greek was petros meaning "small rock"

In Koine Greek pebble is translated as "lithos"

411 posted on 01/08/2013 9:14:46 AM PST by Cronos (**Marriage is about commitment, cohabitation is about convenience.**)
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robby: Constantine’s choosing to make .. the state religion:

Robby, you are wrong, Constantine just in 313 with the Edict of Milan made the Empire religion neutral

his predecessor Galerius ended the persecutions of Christians in 311

And it was only Theodosius I, Flavius Theodosius Augustus who, on 27 February 380 declared the Catholic Church the only legitimate Imperial religion

It is our desire that all the various nation which are subject to our clemency and moderation, should continue to the profession of that religion which was delivered to the Romans by the divine Apostle Peter, as it has been preserved by faithful tradition and which is now professed by the Pontiff Damasus and by Peter, Bishop of Alexandria, a man of apostolic holiness. According to the apostolic teaching and the doctrine of the Gospel, let us believe in the one diety of the father, Son and Holy Spirit, in equal majesty and in a holy Trinity. We authorize the followers of this law to assume the title Catholic Christians;

So, this wasn't Constantine

413 posted on 01/08/2013 9:23:48 AM PST by Cronos (**Marriage is about commitment, cohabitation is about convenience.**)
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And, editor, you are wrong, this later authorisation by the imperator had everything to do with Yeshua's church -- as it said According to the apostolic teaching and the doctrine of the Gospel, let us believe in the one diety of the father, Son and Holy Spirit, in equal majesty and in a holy Trinity. We authorize the followers of this law to assume the title Catholic Christians;
414 posted on 01/08/2013 9:25:04 AM PST by Cronos (**Marriage is about commitment, cohabitation is about convenience.**)
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