11 Reasons the Authority of Christianity Is Centered on St. Peter and Rome

stpeterslist ^ | December 19, 2012

[Elsie]

...by the infallible guidance of the Church ...

That ELECTED all of those bad popes?

You give me giggles!

[Elsie]

He simply chooses to let man do as man does...

Get thee behind me...

[Elsie]

don't bring your fantasies into this, we're discussing religion!!!

So THAT's whats going on!!!

[Elsie]

Life was cheap under pagan Rome

As well as today's Rome.

Oh, the Catholics give good lipservice to the horror of abortion; but how many have blockaded the doors lately of a clinic?

[Elsie]

how on earth could you ever determine that God Almighty would allow His begotten Son to be housed in a soiled vessel?

Since this strawman does NOT exist in Scripture, but the PROPHECY of Christ's birth is found there (and NEVER mentions a SINLESS virgin - but just a virgin) I think GOD can use just about whatever He wants to get the job done.

ROME is the one that says GOD could NOT do it that way.

Kinda presumptuious if you ask me.

(ROME shudda taken RAHAB out of the lineage when they had the chance...)

[CynicalBear]

Talking about heretics. I’ve just been doing some research on the Catholic Church and the inquisition. What an awful horrid church to claim as ones historical home.

[Elsie]

...why on earth should I or anyone listen to you, who has repeatedly demonstrated fallibility and errancy,...

[CynicalBear]

The miracle of Christ is that He was born of a sinful woman but was still sinless Himself.

[Natural Law]

"You don’t consider scripture as God’s word to man?"

Sacred Scripture, together with Sacred Tradition, form the Revealed Word of God, but they are not God.

Peace be with you

[Natural Law]

"You ACCUSER!"

Aren't we all a little too old for this juvenile name calling and baiting?

[RobbyS]

Given that they were Calvinists, not likely.

[roamer_1]

how on earth could you ever determine that God Almighty would allow His begotten Son to be housed in a soiled vessel?

Can you imagine how many booger-eatin' sinners personally TOUCHED HIM??? How could God ALLOW it? Why weren't they all struck down dead? [/sarc]

[metmom]

Well, if people are incapable of correctly interpreting Scripture, what makes anyone think those same people could correctly interpret the magisterium?

[metmom]

While much is made in these threads of the "horrors" of the various Inquisitions by the "Ignorati" conspicuously absent in these discussions are the Protestant "Witch Trials" prevent throughout Protestant northern Europe from the 16th through the 19th centuries. Conservative estimates are that 60,000+ "witches" were tried and executed. That is 20 to 30 TIMES the numbers killed by the Inquisitions.

You wanna show a source for that, just so we will know you didn't make it up...

(Had to use it, iscool. It was good.)

[CynicalBear]

You kiddin me? Why do you think we don’t align ourselves with any organized “religion”? Where have you seen any of us defend some organized religion?

[metmom]

and the Catholic Church, Christ's church on Earth, gives sight to the blind, hearing to the deaf, life to the dead. It is ONLY through the Catholic Church that you are exposed to the totality of what it means to be a Christian.

The Catholic church claiming to do the job of the Holy Spirit and Jesus.

Idolatry institutionalized.

You can partake of the body, blood, soul and divinity of Jesus Christ in the Eucharist, and it is ONLY in the Catholic church that you can do so.

Chapter and verse?

[metmom]

how on earth could you ever determine that God Almighty would allow His begotten Son to be housed in a soiled vessel?

To fully share in our humanity.

Mary didn't need to be sinless, just willing.

[metmom]

To be deep in history Scripture is to cease to be Protestant Catholic - Blessed John Cardinal Newman - unknown FReeper

[metmom]

I think metmom would concur. You shouldn’t listen to us. Why is it do you think that we constantly encourage others to put down the RCC propaganda and simply read scripture while asking the Holy Spirit to guide them?

Yup.

And I've heard plenty of pastors tell their congregations to not just take what they say at face value to to compare what they are preaching and teaching with Scripture and to let them know if the people think that they (the pastors) are out of line.

[metmom]

I know it is a common mistake amongst Protestants to believe that God and Scripture are completely interchangeable, but Catholics believe that the ultimate source of truth is God. That is not the same as Scripture.

When the RCC teaches that the pope can speak ex cathedra, they are saying that they believe that that is the ultimate source of truth from God. The Catholic church rejects the authority of Scripture and replaces it with the authority of a man.

And ironically, and hypocritically, the RCC which rejects the absolute authority of Scripture, turns around and quotes that very same Scripture as the very thing that confers the authority of the pope on him.

What hypocrisy!

I'll take my chances with Scripture, which was written down and has remained virtually unchanged for thousands of years because we can always go back to the oldest manuscripts over the fluid, constantly changing precepts of men that the Catholic church holds to.