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11 Reasons the Authority of Christianity Is Centered on St. Peter and Rome
stpeterslist ^ | December 19, 2012

Posted on 01/06/2013 3:56:49 PM PST by NYer

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To: Syncro

You are not to argue with what those in Catholicism say you meant.


2,361 posted on 01/19/2013 10:10:12 PM PST by daniel1212 (Come to the Lord Jesus as a contrite damned+destitute sinner, trust Him to save you, then live 4 Him)
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To: daniel1212

For that matter, you are not to argue with what Catholicism says GOD meant. (cause He really didn’t mean.....)


2,362 posted on 01/19/2013 10:44:20 PM PST by bonfire
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To: Natural Law
The Church does not teach that works are the cause of Salvation, but Salvation is impossible apart from good works.

Not surprised the counterfeit church would teach that - it's only doing it's job - to prevent as many as they can from attaining salvation.

GOD: - "For it is by grace you have been saved, through faith--and this not from yourselves, it is the gift of God--not by works, so that no one can boast."

ROME: Salvation is impossible apart from good works.

2,363 posted on 01/19/2013 11:49:28 PM PST by presently no screen name
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To: Natural Law; CynicalBear
Because I do not see evidence of the Fruit of the Holy Spirit in you posting history.

CB has love, joy, peace, long-suffering, gentleness, goodness, faith, meekness and temperance putting up with Catholics and their stiff neck, hardheartedness. Others may walk away saying 'I got mine, too bad about you' after ALL this time.

So be thankful. Deception, by definition, can't be seen by the one who is deceived. Catholicism with its man-made, made up teachings/doctrine is to deceive it's flock and you won't hear that sitting in the pew.

The Lord says: "These people come near to Me with their mouth and honor Me with their lips, but their hearts are far from Me. Their worship of Me is MADE UP only of rules taught by men. Isaiah 29:13

You hypocrites! Isaiah was right when he prophesied about you: "'These people honor me with their lips, but their hearts are far from Me. They worship Me in vain; their teachings are but rules taught by men.'" Matt 15:7-9

Do you like the direct approach of JESUS, calling it as HE sees/knows it? I LOVE IT!! Wondering if you would not see evidence of Jesus having the fruit of the Spirit, either??

2,364 posted on 01/20/2013 12:40:50 AM PST by presently no screen name
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To: metmom; terycarl
there were no bibles except those handwritten by the Catholic Church, and they were mostly in libraries...

Hey metmom, I wonder if John and Paul had library cards.

When John completed Revelation he must have handed over to the Catholic's then, to hand write. And appears they didn't like it for some reason.

there was no Christian "competition" at the time...

Christians always had an enemy with tentacles and still do today: evil. It spread itself and formed Catholicsm/Islam/Mormonism/Buddism - and many other flavors to suit anyone taste. Satan lays the bait and whoever grabs it, he ropes them in with man made teachings and twisting of God's Word.

The Holy Spirit always teaches that which can be confirmed in the Word as Truth. Isaiah (8:20) plainly says 'if they speak NOT “according to this Word,” then they are preaching things of darkness'.

"To the law and to the testimony: if they speak NOT according to This Word, it is because there is no light in them."

2,365 posted on 01/20/2013 2:03:11 AM PST by presently no screen name
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To: daniel1212
I need to be more appreciative that i can both read and hear the Word.

AMEN!! I, also, and most appreciative that we have The Word to obey for there was a time it was held captive but God always has a remnant.

2,366 posted on 01/20/2013 2:09:53 AM PST by presently no screen name
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To: daniel1212
Yes, literacy rates were estimated to be very low. But I suspect we're underestimating the situation and how resourceful people can be. For an author to simply say there was no reason for a farmer to know reading and writing is speculation. Certainly they would want to record their harvest, sign land contracts, or record how much money they had on hand. Please note the scriptures among other sources:

While it could be argued that Ezra came from probably that 15% of the educated, the priests and the Levites mentioned here were the ones who were left in captivity. These were the poorest and least educated. Yet they still came to "study" the words of the Law. Additionally, these were people who were poor farmers scratching out a meager living during a time of captivity. (see Nehemiah and Ezra)

Grant it there was probably very little need for people to read and write. The Pharisees were surprised at where our Lord received His "great learning". But scrolls have been found indicating mundane things like supplies and budgets. These types of things would suggest that people had enough literary knowledge to at least carry on daily transactions of commerce. Knowing how faulty the human mind is, I cannot believe that people didn't take to writing down things or knowing what was in signed agreements; at least a little bit. Could they read a book like Deuteronomy? Perhaps not but they could probably pick their way through it.

See post 2330

2,367 posted on 01/20/2013 2:30:20 AM PST by HarleyD
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To: HarleyD

I agree. What about building the Ark of the Covenant and Noah’s Ark? Did they memorize the instructions given?

http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Exodus+37&version=NLT

http://www.ldolphin.org/cisflood.html

Why did Jesus say many times It is Written. People were not ignorant like ‘modern folk’ make them out to be now.

Many today don’t know evil even when they see it or good when they read it.


2,368 posted on 01/20/2013 3:13:55 AM PST by presently no screen name
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To: Syncro
the leadership pushes Catholic Doctrine/Tradition as equal (and in some cases as more important) to scripture, but that is not true.

How about their teachings totally nullifies The Word of God! That is true. And no one can serve two masters.

2,369 posted on 01/20/2013 3:19:12 AM PST by presently no screen name
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To: presently no screen name

Not to mention lentals that supposedly hung on every Jewish entrance. These were little pieces of paper or pottery that listed the Ten Commandments. Surely people could read these.


2,370 posted on 01/20/2013 3:31:34 AM PST by HarleyD
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To: HarleyD
That would a mezuzah, a container with a scroll of the Law inside. Many Orthodox Jews have a small replica tacked on their outside door frame. This I had to explain to my goy coworker to keep him from putting a coat of paint on it.

Maybe you mean lentels which is the horizontal part of the door frame.

2,371 posted on 01/20/2013 4:12:15 AM PST by count-your-change (you don't have to be brilliant, not being stupid is enough)
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To: count-your-change
LOL!!! "Lentals"???? I must have been thinking of bean soup! (lentil). :O)

Thanks for the correction.

2,372 posted on 01/20/2013 4:36:21 AM PST by HarleyD
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To: Natural Law

Six hundred posts BACK???

No thanks...


2,373 posted on 01/20/2013 4:48:06 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: terycarl
because Bill Clinton had a sexual relationship with Monica doesn't make him a bad president but points out that he is a human subject to human frailties.....

"To whom much is given; much is expected."

2,374 posted on 01/20/2013 4:49:18 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: metmom; Natural Law
It begins with "I don't know..."

It ALSO says "who".

So; until the Great Doctor starts posting, that GENERALITY is not going to be confused by the intelligent as being PERSONAL.


2,375 posted on 01/20/2013 4:52:40 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Natural Law
The Church does not teach that works are the cause of Salvation, but Salvation is impossible apart from good works.

Just, like, MORMONism.

2,376 posted on 01/20/2013 4:53:29 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: metmom

anathema


2,377 posted on 01/20/2013 4:54:41 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Running On Empty; Religion Moderator
I hope that it is noted by the Relgion Moderator.

Don't just HOPE; PING!!!

I'm sure he can make an unbiased decision.

2,378 posted on 01/20/2013 4:57:29 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Running On Empty
It can be unfortunate to apply certain Biblical verses in the wrong scenario.

While...

It can be unfortunate to apply certain human concepts in the wrong scenario as well...

2,379 posted on 01/20/2013 4:58:52 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: terycarl
All Catholics are Christians....all who are fully Christian are catholic.

That sounded a bit JUDGEMENTAL; but then I noticed you had a SMALL 'c' in the last word.

2,380 posted on 01/20/2013 5:01:18 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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