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11 Reasons the Authority of Christianity Is Centered on St. Peter and Rome
stpeterslist ^ | December 19, 2012

Posted on 01/06/2013 3:56:49 PM PST by NYer

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To: count-your-change
No, it was not said, “There are no more”. If more “keys to the Kingdom were used then the question is what and where and by whom?

By the successors to Peter.

Just as it was written as

“So we stand here and with open mouth stare heavenward and invent still other keys. Yet Christ says very clearly in Matt 16:19 that he will give the keys to Peter. He does not say he has two kinds of keys, but he gives to Peter the keys he himself has and no others. It is as if he [Christ] were saying:’ why are you staring heavenward in search of the keys? Do you not understand I gave them to Peter? They are indeed the keys of heaven, but they are not found in heaven. I left them on earth. Don’t look for them in heaven or anywhere else except in Peter’s mouth where I have placed them. Peter’s mouth is my mouth, and his tongue is my key case. His office is my office, his binding and loosing are my binding and loosing’ ”

1,021 posted on 01/11/2013 3:39:36 AM PST by Cronos (**Marriage is about commitment, cohabitation is about convenience.**)
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To: Natural Law
Are you too dismissing Jesus and calling Him a liar?

Aren't we all a little too old for this juvenile name calling and baiting?

1,022 posted on 01/11/2013 3:49:23 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Cronos
“By the successors to Peter.”

That assumes that there are successors to Peter with his authority, a teaching not in the Scriptures.

“Just as it was written as” .. by whom and by what authority?

Getting back to what I asked, Have I the tenses wrong? If you don't know just say so, no harm done. If other “keys” were used, what and where? and by whom?

If you don't know I'm not going to try to verbally beat on you and if you do know, please no more unattributed quotes, really.

1,023 posted on 01/11/2013 3:55:30 AM PST by count-your-change (You don't have to be brilliant, not being stupid is enough.)
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To: Salvation
This is not the Koran but the Book of Gospels of the Orthodox Church — usuaally green.

Check it out.

Are you just repeating what you think is true?


 
Pope kisses Koran


JPII kisses the Koran

May 14, 1999 - John Paul II kisses the Koran (Qu'ran) at the Vatican.

To the objectors who claim that this book was not the Koran, we present an excerpt from an interview with FIDES News Service (June 1, 1999). In it, Chaldean Catholic Patriarch Raphael I affirmed that he was present when John Paul II kissed the Muslim "holy" book:

"On May 14th I was received by the Pope, together with a delegation composed of the Shi'ite imam of Khadum mosque and the Sunni president of the council of administration of the Iraqi Islamic Bank. There was also a representative of the Iraqi ministry of religion. ....

"At the end of the audience the Pope bowed to the Muslim holy book, the Qu'ran, presented to him by the delegation, and he kissed it as a sign of respect. The photo of that gesture has been shown repeatedly on Iraqi television and it demonstrates that the Pope is not only aware of the suffering of the Iraqi people, he has also great respect for Islam."

For the full text of the interview, click here.

Posted June 21, 2004

1,024 posted on 01/11/2013 3:55:43 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: terycarl
I finally agree with you, read scripture and ask the holy Spirit to guide you.................however.........., you cannot read any scripture that the RCC preserved, edited, saved, wrote, printed, copied, etc etc....lots of luck there I kinda consider what RCC has done with Scripture similar to what our Government has done with the Constitution.
1,025 posted on 01/11/2013 3:57:53 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: terycarl
After all, He created 1 other....remember Eve???

THAT worked out well!

I wonder...

Did Eve SIN before or after she lost her virginity?

1,026 posted on 01/11/2013 3:59:57 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: terycarl

Wow!

You must have gotten a new load of straw yesterday!


1,027 posted on 01/11/2013 4:01:07 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: terycarl
... but before He was born, He had all the protection that the almighty could provide....

Every day; in our local paper; we have story after story about Catholics blockading Abortion Clinic doors!

Keep up the good work.

1,028 posted on 01/11/2013 4:02:58 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: terycarl
The Catholic church only states that the Holy Spirit works through the church...

Yeah; we've noticed.

1,029 posted on 01/11/2013 4:03:48 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Natural Law; terycarl
Everything in this universe was willed into existence by the mind of God.

so you deny free will???? you're into predestination???pathetic!!!

1,031 posted on 01/11/2013 4:05:59 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Cronos

Hello, hello! cronos...are you still with us?

If you’re searching for info. I’m going back to sleep for a bit, looking forward to your reply when I wake.


1,032 posted on 01/11/2013 4:08:33 AM PST by count-your-change (You don't have to be brilliant, not being stupid is enough.)
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To: boatbums
Yeah, but we all smirk a little when we sing it, now. :o)

And give a little wrist flip at the same time...



1,033 posted on 01/11/2013 4:11:25 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Cronos
Next you’ll say that Joseph was gay as in the KJV it says that he was gaily apparelled — right?

Might as well be; as RCC has gone Galatians 5:12 on him!

1,034 posted on 01/11/2013 4:12:51 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Cronos
your apparent intentions. You believe in mind-reading?

You believe in reading?

your apparent intentions is mind-reading;

Apparently you don't realize the diffence.

1,035 posted on 01/11/2013 4:14:39 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Cronos
True, your post is coming up with new scripture

You didn't LIST it?

HMMmm...

1,036 posted on 01/11/2013 4:16:00 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Cronos
They re-wrote scripture -- just as your post above does.


Matthew 10:1-2
1. He called his twelve disciples to him and gave them authority to drive out evil spirits and to heal every disease and sickness.
2. These are the names of the twelve apostles: first, Simon (who is called Peter) and his brother Andrew; James son of Zebedee, and his brother John;
 
 
 
 
Matthew 16:13-18
13. When Jesus came to the region of Caesarea Philippi, he asked his disciples, "Who do people say the Son of Man is?"
14. They replied, "Some say John the Baptist; others say Elijah; and still others, Jeremiah or one of the prophets."
15. "But what about you?" he asked. "Who do you say I am?"
16. Simon Peter answered, "You are the Christ, the Son of the living God."
17. Jesus replied, "
Blessed are you, Simon son of Jonah, for this was not revealed to you by man, but by my Father in heaven.
18. And I tell you that you are Peter, and on this rock I will build my church, and the gates of Hades will not overcome it.
19. I will give you the keys of the kingdom of heaven; whatever you bind on earth will be bound in heaven, and whatever you loose on earth will be loosed in heaven."


1,037 posted on 01/11/2013 4:18:36 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: metmom
Only God gets the thanks for preserving His word because only He did it.

Now Mom; you KNOW the early church fathers hid those scrolls in the caves by the dead Sea.

1,038 posted on 01/11/2013 4:20:36 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Natural Law

“There are slightly under 8,000 versus in the New Testament. That means that, before computers, word processors and printing presses were invented, Luther accurately researched and translated over 200 versus per day. Riiiiiggghhhtt. “

8,000 divided by 365 equals 21.92 - considerably less than 200.


1,039 posted on 01/11/2013 4:22:38 AM PST by Diapason
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To: Elsie
Let's repeat
The Bible says from KJVAnd Simon Peter answered and said, Thou art the Christ, the Son of the living God
And Jesus answered and said unto him, Blessed art thou, Simon Barjona: for flesh and blood hath not revealed it unto thee, but my Father which is in heaven.
And I say also unto thee, That thou art Peter, and upon this rock I will build my church; and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it.
And I will give unto thee the keys of the kingdom of heaven: and whatsoever thou shalt bind on earth shall be bound in heaven: and whatsoever thou shalt loose on earth shall be loosed in heaven.

Elsie changing the Bible: Matt 16:19 that he will give the keys to Peter. the disciples

Congratulations on the Mormon magic underwear, Elsie -- when did you join them?

1,040 posted on 01/11/2013 4:29:19 AM PST by Cronos (**Marriage is about commitment, cohabitation is about convenience.**)
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