“All over the place. “Out of the mouth of two witnesses” is mentioned literally in Deut 17:6 and Deut 19:15 in the law, and is practiced throughout the Torah and the prophets. Why do you think that everything is repeated at least twice?”
Ok. You have Jesus, and the Gospel writer for the things that they witnessed. Everything that’s in the Gospel qualifies.
“That is not true. I am not saying to ignore any part.”
But you are. You are saying that ‘unless it meets my arbitrary criteria’, we don’t have to follow it.
“exactly why the law cannot be changed in one jot or tittle.”
And that includes the Gospels. You are attempting to alter the Gospels by ignoring one verse that you don’t like. This is wrong.
“YHWH does not, because YHWH’s Word is sure.”
Then why are you arguing that this one passage is not ‘sure’, and that we can safely ignore it without incurring God’s wrath?
“Which is contrary to what you are teaching here.”
How so? I am arguing that when Jesus gave St. Peter the power to bind and loose that St. Peter was given this authority by God himself, at God’s own time and place, and at his own choosing. I am affirming this principle that the Gospels are inviolate - you are denying this is the case.
“The burden is upon YOU to show that the changes y’all have inflicted upon the Torah are ordained”
Jesus himself said this was the case, and taught this in the Gospels. Ergo, I have met the burden you have asked. You have simply dismissed the citation.
I have then challenged the origin of the rule, and I have now shown why everything in the Gospels qualifies.
>> “ I am arguing that when Jesus gave St. Peter the power to bind and loose that St. Peter was given this authority by God himself” <<
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Peter was given no ‘power,’ he was given a commandment that what he bound on Earth had to be that which was bound in Heaven. This is born out by the rest of the NT. Acts 10 is a good example, and there are many more, such as when Paul had to rebuke him for his hypocrisy, and James backed Paul up solidly.
Peter had no ‘power’ but the spiritual gifts of the apostle.
Qualifies as what? one still cannot use the Gospels, or the words of Yeshua to change the Torah. Nothing changes the Torah.
But you are. You are saying that ‘unless it meets my arbitrary criteria’, we don’t have to follow it.
I said no such thing, and my criteria is not arbitrary, as I have already proven.
What I have said is that if the interpretation thereof destroys the Torah, then the interpretation is needfully wrong.
And that includes the Gospels. You are attempting to alter the Gospels by ignoring one verse that you don’t like. This is wrong.
I have ignored nothing.
And that includes the Gospels. You are attempting to alter the Gospels by ignoring one verse that you don’t like. This is wrong.
The passage is sure - it is the interpretation and extrapolation that is false.
How so? I am arguing that when Jesus gave St. Peter the power to bind and loose that St. Peter was given this authority by God himself, at God’s own time and place, and at his own choosing. I am affirming this principle that the Gospels are inviolate - you are denying this is the case.
They can only be inviolate on the sure foundation of the law - To use such a passage to assert authority over the Torah is obviously malformed. And that is exactly what has happened.
Jesus himself said this was the case, and taught this in the Gospels. Ergo, I have met the burden you have asked. You have simply dismissed the citation.
Unless you can demonstrate how that fits within Yeshua's clear command to do and teach the Torah, you have met no such burden. For if Yeshua actually sanctioned such as you desire, he can only be a false prophet. Ergo, your interpretation and extrapolations there from must be incorrect.
I have then challenged the origin of the rule, and I have now shown why everything in the Gospels qualifies.
You have shown nothing. There is no cause with which one can change the Torah. YHWH said so, and so did Yeshua.