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To: JCBreckenridge
[roamer_1:] Because I figured that you would accept the word of one of your church fathers.

And why would I do that? Why should we care about what the Fathers of the Church wrote?

'WE'? I don't care. If you read upthread, Papias is hardly my first defense. But apparently, The Roman church listens to it's own fathers the same way it listens to the Word - Take what 'confirms' and throw out the rest. Frankly, I should have been expecting that.

197 posted on 12/29/2012 9:01:02 AM PST by roamer_1 (Globalism is just socialism in a business suit.)
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To: roamer_1; JCBreckenridge
'WE'? I don't care. If you read upthread, Papias is hardly my first defense. But apparently, The Roman church listens to it's own fathers the same way it listens to the Word - Take what 'confirms' and throw out the rest. Frankly, I should have been expecting that.

Individual Church Fathers are not the Magisterium. Individual opinions, of Augustine or Jerome or anyone else, can be erroneous. That is why we reject the 'any milkmaid' interpretation of the Word or the word. If you read the Gospels and the rest of the NT, it is the collective interpretation of the Church that is to be considered correct, not anyone's whim or opinion.

198 posted on 12/29/2012 9:15:51 AM PST by MarkBsnr (I would not believe in the Gospel, if the authority of the Catholic Church did not move me to do so.)
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To: roamer_1

” ‘WE’? I don’t care. If you read upthread, Papias is hardly my first defense. But apparently, The Roman church listens to it’s own fathers the same way it listens to the Word - Take what ‘confirms’ and throw out the rest. Frankly, I should have been expecting that.”

Indeed, Papias is irrelevant to your position. So, where’s your defense here? What evidence do you possess that the Gospels were originally written in Hebrew not Greek? All you’ve provided in this thread is plent by of opinion, but precious little fact. My argument is simple.

The earliest documentary evidence that we possess is in Greek. If the books are indeed translations from the Hebrew into the Greek, wouldn’t it be more likely that the first documents we possess would also be written in Hebrew, not Greek?


199 posted on 12/29/2012 9:32:25 AM PST by JCBreckenridge (q\\)
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