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To: roamer_1; JCBreckenridge
'WE'? I don't care. If you read upthread, Papias is hardly my first defense. But apparently, The Roman church listens to it's own fathers the same way it listens to the Word - Take what 'confirms' and throw out the rest. Frankly, I should have been expecting that.

Individual Church Fathers are not the Magisterium. Individual opinions, of Augustine or Jerome or anyone else, can be erroneous. That is why we reject the 'any milkmaid' interpretation of the Word or the word. If you read the Gospels and the rest of the NT, it is the collective interpretation of the Church that is to be considered correct, not anyone's whim or opinion.

198 posted on 12/29/2012 9:15:51 AM PST by MarkBsnr (I would not believe in the Gospel, if the authority of the Catholic Church did not move me to do so.)
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To: MarkBsnr; JCBreckenridge
Individual Church Fathers are not the Magisterium. Individual opinions, of Augustine or Jerome or anyone else, can be erroneous. That is why we reject the 'any milkmaid' interpretation of the Word or the word. If you read the Gospels and the rest of the NT, it is the collective interpretation of the Church that is to be considered correct, not anyone's whim or opinion.

Thanks for that. But if your magisterium confounds the law, what then? The commandment of Yeshua is to uphold the Torah and the prophets. If the magisterium is found to have broken the laws of YHWH, how then is it any less fallible than your average milkmaid?

201 posted on 12/29/2012 10:17:49 AM PST by roamer_1 (Globalism is just socialism in a business suit.)
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