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To: Cronos
How much is drinking to drunkenness? By who's standards? Where is the line, and just who will be held responsible for identifying this line and staying on the sober side of it?

From a legal standpoint in many states, a BAC of 0.08 is considered too intoxicated to drive, but many here would probably contend that that blood alcohol level does not reach to the point of intoxication. Again, it's a complete judgment call, and the person assuming judgment is the one who's ability to objectively judge is impaired by the time he reaches that boundary.

If drinking is condoned by these Christians, what about marijuana use, assuming it is made legal in a jurisdiction? Will these Christians also say that using marijuana "in moderation" is not sinful? How about Cocaine? Crack? Speed? Everyone has his justification with this leaven.

194 posted on 12/14/2012 5:07:05 AM PST by fwdude ( You cannot compromise with that which you must defeat.)
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To: fwdude
well, my standard is this -- there is a point at which one passes from "drinking wine" to drunkenness; that is, these are two different states. For examples, Genesis 9:21 "And he drank of the wine, and was drunken..." Deuteronomy 29:19 "And it come to pass, when he heareth the words of this curse, that he bless himself in his heart, saying, I shall have peace, though I walk in the imagination of mine heart, to add drunkenness to thirst:"

The Bible speaks of "drunken" but also of an exceeding state of that: 1 Samuel 25:36 "And Abigail came to Nabal; and, behold, he held a feast in his house, like the feast of a king; and Nabal's heart was merry within him, for he was very drunken" The "very drunken" state is most obvious, but drunken might not be quite as readily observable.

195 posted on 12/14/2012 7:22:26 AM PST by Cronos (**Marriage is about commitment, cohabitation is about convenience.**)
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