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To: narses
I wish you guys would make up your minds concerning Luther. You love him when he says things you agree with - even though he changed his views about Mary the longer he was away from Catholicism - and hate him and cast him into hell when he disagrees. Like I said, Luther's views about many things Catholic evolved over time. From http://tquid.sharpens.org/luther_mary2.htm#DD we can learn about Luther's theology concerning Mary.

    I would also point out that only two years after Luther wrote the Magnificat, we see his Marian theology evolving. He wrote to a group of Bohemians,

    “… I certainly would not call you heretics, as our sophists do [a.k.a: “elite educated Catholics”], because you do not honor or call upon the mother of God or any of the saints, but cling alone to the only mediator, Jesus Christ, and are satisfied that in heaven as well as on earth each one is obligated to pray for the other. For there is nothing in the Scriptures about the intercession of dead saints, nor about honoring them and praying to them. And no one can deny that hitherto through services for these saints we have gone so far as to make pure idols out of the mother of God and the saints. We have placed more confidence in them, on account of the services and works which we have done for them, than we have placed in Christ himself, with the result that faith in Christ has perished.”

It truly is sad to see the schizophrenia some have over Martin Luther. I think if they actually read the writings of the man, rather than take snippets from works of other "apologists" who also misuse his works, they would be less ignorant about the man and a little more understanding and appreciate the greatness of the man and what he was able to accomplish to the glory of God.

4,058 posted on 01/02/2013 10:34:04 PM PST by boatbums (God is ready to assume full responsibility for the life wholly yielded to Him.)
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To: boatbums
It truly is sad to see the schizophrenia some have over Martin Luther.

You'd think the same mindset would be evidenced against the talking donkey that tried to keep the 'prophet' from continuing in the direction he was going!


Numbers Chapter 22:22-35

Rev 2:14

4,078 posted on 01/03/2013 4:27:43 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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