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To: annalex
How would you justify to the hundreds if not thousands of innocent little boys raped by priests that were moved about by cardinal Law in Boston that they should believe in a faith that rewarded the man who fed them to PRIESTS he KNEW were RAPISTS. He was rewarded by a life of luxury alongside the pope no less. Exactly what would you say to these victims? I'm certain that you'll attack me, but somewhere fit in what you'd say to the rape victims. Thanks.
22 posted on 12/08/2012 7:16:31 PM PST by bramps (Sarah Palin got more votes in 2008 than Romney did in 2012)
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To: bramps

I will make absolutely no excuse for the people involved in the victimization of innocents. I also do not worship humans because they will disappoint you every time. My faith is in God, Jesus Christ and The Holy Spirit - not a priest. I work for a Catholic organization and see every day that priests are human too.


25 posted on 12/08/2012 7:43:49 PM PST by Clintons Are White Trash (Lynn Stewart, Helen Thomas, Rosie ODonnell, Maureen Dowd, Medea Benjamin - The Axis of Ugly)
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To: bramps
Humans sin. Some humans who sin are Catholics in the priesthood. Those who like to pretend that an individual committing a sin is the same thing as the entire Church being wrong don't deny all the Christian groups that condone murder by contraception nor do they claim all such groups are totally worthless because members of that group routinely murder their own children.

Obviously that's a self-serving double standard because while one group had perverts in it's midst that sexually gratified themselves with children, the other group condones murder committed in order to ensure that sexual self gratification isn't interfered with.

Exactly what do you day to the victims?

The tens of millions of victims of murder for the sake of sexual gratification that were each and every single one endorsed by these non-Catholic churches?

26 posted on 12/08/2012 7:44:22 PM PST by Rashputin (Jesus Christ doesn't evacuate His troops, He leads them to victory.)
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To: bramps
Vultus Christi

The Mother, the Child, and the Serpent

 on December 7, 2012 11:55 AM |
 
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The New Adam

Caravaggio's Madonna dei Palafrenieri, first exhibited in Saint Peter's Basilica in 1606, is wonderfully disturbing. While Grandmother Saint Anne looks on, the Virgin Mother Mary allows the Child Jesus to place His little foot on top of hers; together the Mother and the Child crush the head of the serpent under their feet. The nakedness of the Child Jesus suggests that He is indeed the New Adam who, by His innocence, inaugurates a new creation: the Kingdom of God where only little children are allowed to enter.

Sexual Abuse: The Dark Sin

The darkness of this painting, so typical of Caravaggio, and the sinister writhing of the serpent combine with the purity of the Infant Christ to speak poignantly to the tragic drama of the sexual abuse of children. Adults who were sexually abused as children never really recover from the serpent's venomous bite. The poison has a delayed release. Its effects are experienced over time, triggering emotional chaos, spiritual distress, and even chronic physical illness. The serpent, moreover, hides in the darkness, biding its time in anticipation of new attacks.

Therapy

While therapy or some form of counseling is certainly helpful in dealing with the long-term effects of the serpent's bite, it is not sufficient. Rarely is a complete healing possible through therapy alone. In my experience, most persons struggling with the effects of sexual abuse will suffer recurrent crises, although with time these may become less frequent and less debilitating. The benefit of therapy is in helping the individual to identify what things trigger crises, what things feed into the chaos, and what strategies are effective in countering recurrent difficulties.

Supernatural Means

Ultimately, one is obliged to confront the evil, in its origin and in its effects, on spiritual ground and with supernatural means. This is where the adult living with the effects of sexual abuse as a child finds it necessary to identify with the Infant Christ in entrusting himself entirely to the Blessed Virgin Mary.

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The Lord God said unto the serpent, I will put enmity between Thee and the Woman, and between thy seed and her Seed, which same shall bruise thy head, alleluia. (Antiphon at the Benedictus on December 8th, Solemnity of the Immaculate Conception)

Consecration to the Blessed Virgin Mary

Consecration to the Blessed Virgin Mary leads one to place one's own foot on hers in total confidence. So long as the serpent's head remains under the foot of the Immaculate Virgin and one's own foot rests on hers, the effects of the abuse are held in check. The serpent may writhe and hiss, but ultimately the All-Holy Mother of God and her Seed, that is the Infant Christ and those who belong to Him, will crush its head.

The Immaculate Conception

The Solemnity of the Immaculate Conception of the Blessed Virgin Mary is of all days the most favourable to make or to renew a personal consecration to the Immaculate Mother of God, especially if one struggles with the long-term effects of sexual abuse. The renewal of one's consecration to the Blessed Virgin Mary opens again and again the floodgates of the graces given her by God for distribution to the weakest and most wounded of her children.

The Rosary: Where Hope Flowers

One will also find in the humble prayer of the Rosary an indispensable protection and a source of inner healing. The mysteries of the infancy and childhood of Christ are supremely effective in countering the effects of a childhood marred by abuse. In the presence of the Immaculate Virgin and her Child there flowers the hope of a serene and fruitful life. "Give glory to the Lord for thy good things, and bless the God eternal, that He may rebuild His tabernacle in thee" (Tobias 13:12).


30 posted on 12/08/2012 8:15:51 PM PST by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: bramps
Exactly what would you say to these victims?

That the pederast priest that raped them committed a horrendous sin and a horrendous crime, and that these boys should wish work for a stronger Catholic Church that would consider any form of homosexuality, including homosexual inclination, a firm bar against priesthood or deaconate, or work with the flock in the Church; that would publicly and loudly proclaim that homosexuality or other sexual deviance is a sin regardless of civil laws that might allow them. The Church has the Holy Inquisition that she, the Church employed to great effect and it is time for Holy Inquisition to be sent to America and eradicate these pederast priests from her midst, and where civil laws were committed, refer them to civil prosecution.

Then I urge the victims of abuse to purge all vindictive passions form their souls and seek strength to forgive their tormentors, and come as slaves to Christ to my Church, which alone can lead them to Christ and to salvation.

Them, especially, I will urge to stay away form the errors of Protestantism which is a religion based on hatred of the Holy Catholic Apostolic Church. I will also urge them to fight modernism, all its works, political and artistic, and all its designs to reform human sexuality in the Satan's mold.

57 posted on 12/09/2012 6:19:00 AM PST by annalex (fear them not)
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